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Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
They "deserve" to prosper at the rate they could without government interference. Instead the "Food Pyramid" promoted their competition at their detriment. We will never accurately know the cost of that fraudulent endorsement of breads/grains.

Then it is theoretically meaningless. None of the other industries were crippled. We have evolved to understand what a healthy diet looks like, and I can walk in to the grocery store and find meats, cheeses, fruits, veggies and even donuts as easily as I can find a loaf of bread.

Originally posted by MontaviousX
Then it is theoretically meaningless. None of the other industries were crippled. We have evolved to understand what a healthy diet looks like, and I can walk in to the grocery store and find meats, cheeses, fruits, veggies and even donuts as easily as I can find a loaf of bread.

Its not "theoretically" meaningless to those who produce/produced proteins. How many companies (and the individuals involved with them) lost their businesses over this particular example of government corruption?

Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
Its not "theoretically" meaningless to those who produce/produced proteins. How many companies (and the individuals involved with them) lost their businesses over this particular example of government corruption?

Tyson Chicken - stock price in 1990 was $6.35. By 98 it was $14.21
Smithfield Pork - 1990 stock price $12.25. 1999 price $33.88
ConAgra- $7.43 -> $18.34

Looks like Big Meat didn’t suffer to me

Originally posted by MontaviousX
Tyson Chicken - stock price in 1990 was $6.35. By 98 it was $14.21
Smithfield Pork - 1990 stock price $12.25. 1999 price $33.88
ConAgra- $7.43 -> $18.34

Looks like Big Meat didn’t suffer to me

Big Meat doesnt suffer. Its the ones it impacts that feel it the most.

Originally posted by MontaviousX
Tyson Chicken - stock price in 1990 was $6.35. By 98 it was $14.21
Smithfield Pork - 1990 stock price $12.25. 1999 price $33.88
ConAgra- $7.43 -> $18.34

Looks like Big Meat didn’t suffer to me

Originally posted by BigMex73
Big Meat doesnt suffer. Its the ones it impacts that feel it the most.

So you guys want *three* producers to control everything? How many *other* production options went out of business because of this fraudulent diet advice?

Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
So you guys want *three* producers to control everything? How many *other* production options went out of business because of this fraudulent diet advice?

And what about all of the smaller ranches/dairies that suffered?

Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
So you guys want *three* producers to control everything? How many *other* production options went out of business because of this fraudulent diet advice?

I was making a meat pun.

I could care less about what people eat. Most people eat like shit. I don't. Enjoy it while you can, no guarantees.

Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
So you guys want *three* producers to control everything? How many *other* production options went out of business because of this fraudulent diet advice?

Larry, I’m not going to dig through every stock profile just to further prove my point. There are many research papers done over how the “meat and dairy” industry had a boom in the 90s. What more proof do you need to dispute what you’re saying?

Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
And what about all of the smaller ranches/dairies that suffered?

Again, how many small businesses close every year? That’s not a reflector of the market as a whole

Originally posted by MontaviousX
Again, how many small businesses close every year? That’s not a reflector of the market as a whole

They didn't close by being inefficient or inept or corrupt--some of those closed directly because the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA said that their citizens should consume (and thus *Buy*) less of their products. Come on man, this isn't that hard to understand.

"A rising tide lifts all ships". That's a commonly understood saying.

The opposite of it was in play here--a defamed industry will end up with some of its players dying.

Originally posted by MontaviousX
Larry, I’m not going to dig through every stock profile just to further prove my point. There are many research papers done over how the “meat and dairy” industry had a boom in the 90s.

Comparatively speaking, how did the breads and grains industry do?

And besides, if tens or hundreds of "meat and dairy" producers were forced out before they could participate in the '90s boom, you're completely fine with them going out of business due in part to false *government* funded/provided fake advice?

Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
Comparatively speaking, how did the breads and grains industry do?

And besides, if tens or hundreds of "meat and dairy" producers were forced out before they could participate in the '90s boom, you're completely fine with them going out of business due in part to false *government* funded/provided fake advice?



I don’t know Larry. Why don’t you find info to support your argument rather than make me prove it for you.

It’s pretty lazy to just yell whataboutisms all day long. If the government helps a business or industry, then you’re advocating for big business. If it is hands off and businesses close, then you claim conspiracy.

Originally posted by MontaviousX
I don’t know Larry. Why don’t you find info to support your argument rather than make me prove it for you.

It’s pretty lazy to just yell whataboutisms all day long. If the government helps a business or industry, then you’re advocating for big business. If it is hands off and businesses close, then you claim conspiracy.



The Food Pyramid isn't "conspiracy"-its right there, available for anyone to read.

Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
The Food Pyramid isn't "conspiracy"-its right there, available for anyone to read.

I’m talking about the facts behind big corn or whatever. I know the food pyramid exists

Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
"Progressives" have such a difficult time with the basics of "Economics". Supply and Demand curves are cold bitches that have *zero* interest in "feelings". Simply put, when the supply of a good or service goes up, prices go down. When the demand for a good or service goes down, prices go down.

It doesn't matter what "good intentions" are interjected into policy decision, the supply and demand curves simply shrug and behave as they always do.

Increase the minimum wage? The number of jobs available go down

Increase interest rates? The number of loan applications go down.

Increase the price of goods and services? The number of people wishing to purchase that good or service goes down.

"Progressives" pretend that they don't acknowledge supply and demand, but when they're in the white house they let the mask slip a couple of times each presidency they hold. They do this by releasing oil from the Strategic Reserve. The do this because they understand that "more oil" (supply) means that the price for this (gasoline) will go down and help them at the polls. And then a few hours later, they revert to form and propose some sort of "feels good" legislation like restricting drilling or increasing the minimum wage that will have the opposite effect.

Basic Economics should be taught in high school, but since "Progressives" control the education system they are more interested in teaching bullshit "equity" ideas than life truths like Economics.

How you liking that Tesla stock?