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Originally posted by Stobie
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GG....though I have to say this is the third game this season where my offense bore very little resemblance to my AI.

I am about ready to dumpt the whole thing and do it over...I think I may have a corrupted file or something. My first down offense just isn't even close to my intended game plan.


If you are updating within an hour of the game time there is a known issue with that... some times the AI will record zeros instead of your intended number.


And if the site weren't such a lag-o-potamus I wouldn't be updating so close to game time....

Nevertheless, thanks for the advice

 
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GG so Cal
 
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This has been the worst fucking season to watch... we've played so many good teams close and haven't been able to get the win. Today we can't get the tackle when it matters, even with guys in the right position... it's a sad season when we're sitting 3-7 and I can point to 4-5 plays in all but 2 or 3 of our losses that cost us the game...
 
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And I'm not sure what your DLine was on today, but it was lethal...
 
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Originally posted by jktooley
And I'm not sure what your DLine was on today, but it was lethal...


Our D-line is known for that
 
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Originally posted by jktooley
And I'm not sure what your DLine was on today, but it was lethal...


kinda how i felt about the Hoplites dline today against ESL...we were getting pancaked like no other...

GG Hoplites.
 
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GG Manus - we really shat the bed, didn't we? We were overdue for a spanking given the 5 game streak we had.

Good luck rest of the way.
 
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Originally posted by tautology
Originally posted by Stobie

Originally posted by tautology


GG....though I have to say this is the third game this season where my offense bore very little resemblance to my AI.

I am about ready to dumpt the whole thing and do it over...I think I may have a corrupted file or something. My first down offense just isn't even close to my intended game plan.


If you are updating within an hour of the game time there is a known issue with that... some times the AI will record zeros instead of your intended number.


And if the site weren't such a lag-o-potamus I wouldn't be updating so close to game time....

Nevertheless, thanks for the advice



well the game always sims between 3 and 4 PM (PST) today the results were available by about 3:27 and the scheduled sim time is 4:00, so I never make any changes after 3:00.

is that what you mean by updating within an hour of gametime? makes sense that there's a bug since the game is actually simming at that time

I've been struggling with my AI too, though, tautology.. sometimes I wonder WTF is going on because I have to set upwards of 75 or 80% runs simply if I want to see 60% running. If I drop the input %'s down to 50% run and 50% pass, I'll get 60-70% passing results.

I'm about ready to delete the whole thing and start over too because I don't know how the hell to get what I actually want to see.

Internally I have been telling the team that I must be doing something wrong because I'm not getting the gameplans I really want, but now that I hear you talk about it at least I know I'm not the only one!
 
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Originally posted by teamriots
Originally posted by tautology

Originally posted by Stobie


Originally posted by tautology



GG....though I have to say this is the third game this season where my offense bore very little resemblance to my AI.

I am about ready to dumpt the whole thing and do it over...I think I may have a corrupted file or something. My first down offense just isn't even close to my intended game plan.


If you are updating within an hour of the game time there is a known issue with that... some times the AI will record zeros instead of your intended number.


And if the site weren't such a lag-o-potamus I wouldn't be updating so close to game time....

Nevertheless, thanks for the advice



well the game always sims between 3 and 4 PM (PST) today the results were available by about 3:27 and the scheduled sim time is 4:00, so I never make any changes after 3:00.

is that what you mean by updating within an hour of gametime? makes sense that there's a bug since the game is actually simming at that time

I've been struggling with my AI too, though, tautology.. sometimes I wonder WTF is going on because I have to set upwards of 75 or 80% runs simply if I want to see 60% running. If I drop the input %'s down to 50% run and 50% pass, I'll get 60-70% passing results.

I'm about ready to delete the whole thing and start over too because I don't know how the hell to get what I actually want to see.

Internally I have been telling the team that I must be doing something wrong because I'm not getting the gameplans I really want, but now that I hear you talk about it at least I know I'm not the only one!


Most people are having that exact problem. GLB's RNG seems to favor passing for whatever reason.
 
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GG Durham!

We barely eeked that one out. Fumble and Interception on 2 separate long drives really hurt us.

You guys have been playing everyone closely, but barely losing so good luck! You guys are a few plays from being playoff team it seems despite the record.
Edited by teamriots on Oct 31, 2009 18:12:38
 
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Yup we have to go 80-85% running just to get it around 65%
 
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Originally posted by teamriots
well the game always sims between 3 and 4 PM (PST) today the results were available by about 3:27 and the scheduled sim time is 4:00, so I never make any changes after 3:00.

is that what you mean by updating within an hour of gametime? makes sense that there's a bug since the game is actually simming at that time

I've been struggling with my AI too, though, tautology.. sometimes I wonder WTF is going on because I have to set upwards of 75 or 80% runs simply if I want to see 60% running. If I drop the input %'s down to 50% run and 50% pass, I'll get 60-70% passing results.

I'm about ready to delete the whole thing and start over too because I don't know how the hell to get what I actually want to see.

Internally I have been telling the team that I must be doing something wrong because I'm not getting the gameplans I really want, but now that I hear you talk about it at least I know I'm not the only one!


my 4th down AI between our own 45 and the 50 yard line is completely random. i have it set to punt. the AI test comes up punt...however...its a guessing game to what is coming when that position comes up in the game. There is no way for me to override this it seems.
 
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no... Stobie is referring to the hour leading up to the hour before sim time...

Basically, even though the game hasn't simmed yet, the AI is being cached, so any changes you make after that can lead to a huge bag of AI randomness....

I found that out yesterday on a team I oc for... We had 0 pro set or shotgun plays in our packages, i made changes to the AI inside of 2 hours until sim time, but before 1 hour until sim time, and watched us run 7 pro set plays and 3 shotgun plays... It was great... random pro set FB dives on a team that doesn't have a rushing FB....
 
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Originally posted by teamriots
well the game always sims between 3 and 4 PM (PST) today the results were available by about 3:27 and the scheduled sim time is 4:00, so I never make any changes after 3:00.

is that what you mean by updating within an hour of gametime? makes sense that there's a bug since the game is actually simming at that time

I've been struggling with my AI too, though, tautology.. sometimes I wonder WTF is going on because I have to set upwards of 75 or 80% runs simply if I want to see 60% running. If I drop the input %'s down to 50% run and 50% pass, I'll get 60-70% passing results.

I'm about ready to delete the whole thing and start over too because I don't know how the hell to get what I actually want to see.

Internally I have been telling the team that I must be doing something wrong because I'm not getting the gameplans I really want, but now that I hear you talk about it at least I know I'm not the only one!


When I say within an hour I actually mean within an hour of real sim time which is 430 MST... so I say don't do anything after 330 MST as some time from that time to sim time GLB will cache what you have in the AI. You can change it but it has what it cache'd already stored and you can be screwed. I found this last season and asked about it to Bort and he confirmed that it cache's your AI and it could cause a problem.. not all the time but sometimes.
 
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Originally posted by jrry32
Most people are having that exact problem. GLB's RNG seems to favor passing for whatever reason.


What most people realize is they look at what their 1st down and 2nd down percentages and if you look at those usually they follow what you want... but the game includes 3rd and long and most the time that is 100% passing and thus it throws it off... so if you struggle on 1st and 2nd and have alot of 3rd downs that are over usually 3-4 you will pass more often... but if you are semi successful on 1/2 you will mainly rush on 3rd so that is where I see the change in %'s. Do a game scout on your game and focus on 1st and 2nd down and see if you follows your intent.
 
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