GG Yaks I never thought my kicker would make a 40 yard field goal?
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Originally posted by R007C
I’m at 80/58 and similar other stats and finished at 387
517 def feels … unlikely. I’ve dicked around with the vpb a lot and can push into the low 4’s but never the 410s. To add another 100 on top of that? I dunno man. I’d love to know how that’s possible , could revolutionize the game
I would love to see how you can get over 500 out of a slow build peewee dot, if truly possible i would love to see it explained. You, Buck, all the other good peewee builders end up in the low 400s. It definitely feels wrong on the surface and likely is. i have tried slow building a dot or two until late in the season to try and beat peewee with speed, it never worked and the dot was only just over 410.
I’m at 80/58 and similar other stats and finished at 387
517 def feels … unlikely. I’ve dicked around with the vpb a lot and can push into the low 4’s but never the 410s. To add another 100 on top of that? I dunno man. I’d love to know how that’s possible , could revolutionize the game
I would love to see how you can get over 500 out of a slow build peewee dot, if truly possible i would love to see it explained. You, Buck, all the other good peewee builders end up in the low 400s. It definitely feels wrong on the surface and likely is. i have tried slow building a dot or two until late in the season to try and beat peewee with speed, it never worked and the dot was only just over 410.
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Originally posted by moorespeed
GG Yaks I never thought my kicker would make a 40 yard field goal?
lol I thought the same
GG Yaks I never thought my kicker would make a 40 yard field goal?
lol I thought the same
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Originally posted by *Birdman*
I would love to see how you can get over 500 out of a slow build peewee dot, if truly possible i would love to see it explained. You, Buck, all the other good peewee builders end up in the low 400s. It definitely feels wrong on the surface and likely is. i have tried slow building a dot or two until late in the season to try and beat peewee with speed, it never worked and the dot was only just over 410.
i've been playing with the vpb for a bit now and even after boosting to level 21, the highest i can get is 458.80. i'm using tanuki's level 15 LG1 (currently at 517.86 EL) as a baseline to try do an apples to apples. i've tried training enhancements, swapping attributes, slow build the entire season. Can't get into the next town over, much less anywhere near the ballpark of that EL.
I would love to see how you can get over 500 out of a slow build peewee dot, if truly possible i would love to see it explained. You, Buck, all the other good peewee builders end up in the low 400s. It definitely feels wrong on the surface and likely is. i have tried slow building a dot or two until late in the season to try and beat peewee with speed, it never worked and the dot was only just over 410.
i've been playing with the vpb for a bit now and even after boosting to level 21, the highest i can get is 458.80. i'm using tanuki's level 15 LG1 (currently at 517.86 EL) as a baseline to try do an apples to apples. i've tried training enhancements, swapping attributes, slow build the entire season. Can't get into the next town over, much less anywhere near the ballpark of that EL.
Edited by R007C on Jul 4, 2026 21:29:35
Edited by R007C on Jul 4, 2026 21:07:32
Edited by R007C on Jul 4, 2026 21:06:46
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Originally posted by R007C
i've been playing with the vpb for a bit now and even after boosting to level 21, the highest i can get is 458.80. i'm using tanuki's level 15 LG1 (currently at 517.86 EL) as a baseline to try do an apples to apples. i've tried training enhancements, swapping attributes, slow build the entire season. Can't get into the next town over, much less anywhere near the ballpark of that EL.
It isn't possible. I quit dotball when found out how deep the Mob hack might go.
Smitty convinced me to come back and try PeeWee as had an old school vibe to it and great commentary by the bird.
Then I watched the playoff game the same shitty bullshit even here.
They disgust me. I'm done for good. Thanks for making it fun those of you who are not cheating bastards.
XD
i've been playing with the vpb for a bit now and even after boosting to level 21, the highest i can get is 458.80. i'm using tanuki's level 15 LG1 (currently at 517.86 EL) as a baseline to try do an apples to apples. i've tried training enhancements, swapping attributes, slow build the entire season. Can't get into the next town over, much less anywhere near the ballpark of that EL.
It isn't possible. I quit dotball when found out how deep the Mob hack might go.
Smitty convinced me to come back and try PeeWee as had an old school vibe to it and great commentary by the bird.
Then I watched the playoff game the same shitty bullshit even here.
They disgust me. I'm done for good. Thanks for making it fun those of you who are not cheating bastards.
XD
Originally posted by *Birdman*
I would love to see how you can get over 500 out of a slow build peewee dot, if truly possible i would love to see it explained. You, Buck, all the other good peewee builders end up in the low 400s. It definitely feels wrong on the surface and likely is. i have tried slow building a dot or two until late in the season to try and beat peewee with speed, it never worked and the dot was only just over 410.
I'm sure everyone would love to see it done. When it comes to EL, I can tell you that none of you have a good plan on BT acquistion, when to train what, when to switch level of training and what to actually do with those BTs.
What I did find out is my goal to max out EL worked perfectly but didn't actually perform like I thought it would. I still get manhandled at the LoS being an example. Maxing EL won't be the focus the next time I play Pee Wee however.
I would love to see how you can get over 500 out of a slow build peewee dot, if truly possible i would love to see it explained. You, Buck, all the other good peewee builders end up in the low 400s. It definitely feels wrong on the surface and likely is. i have tried slow building a dot or two until late in the season to try and beat peewee with speed, it never worked and the dot was only just over 410.
I'm sure everyone would love to see it done. When it comes to EL, I can tell you that none of you have a good plan on BT acquistion, when to train what, when to switch level of training and what to actually do with those BTs.
What I did find out is my goal to max out EL worked perfectly but didn't actually perform like I thought it would. I still get manhandled at the LoS being an example. Maxing EL won't be the focus the next time I play Pee Wee however.
Originally posted by MarinotoTua
It isn't possible. I quit dotball when found out how deep the Mob hack might go.
Smitty convinced me to come back and try PeeWee as had an old school vibe to it and great commentary by the bird.
Then I watched the playoff game the same shitty bullshit even here.
They disgust me. I'm done for good. Thanks for making it fun those of you who are not cheating bastards.
XD
Ridiculous conclusion but to each their own. I have sky high EL levels on Pro teams with open builds to the team members.
It isn't possible. I quit dotball when found out how deep the Mob hack might go.
Smitty convinced me to come back and try PeeWee as had an old school vibe to it and great commentary by the bird.
Then I watched the playoff game the same shitty bullshit even here.
They disgust me. I'm done for good. Thanks for making it fun those of you who are not cheating bastards.
XD
Ridiculous conclusion but to each their own. I have sky high EL levels on Pro teams with open builds to the team members.
Edited by dusk883 on Jul 5, 2026 11:46:41
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EL maxing is an absolute pain; requires turning training on/ off managing the BTs to turn in at the exact times and knowing where to put the SPs for maximum value. I have 1 dot in the non-pee wee league that I started doing a max EL build for and after 1 season had to stop because the maintenance on just one dot became exhaustive and confusing, and I even have the build guidelines posted on the player page. even following it marginally though has produced a dot far superior in EL than my normal build plans.
This doesn't feel like Mob at all - at least not from where I'm sitting, especially having dusk's dots on other teams I've been a part of.
This doesn't feel like Mob at all - at least not from where I'm sitting, especially having dusk's dots on other teams I've been a part of.
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Originally posted by dusk883
I'm sure everyone would love to see it done. When it comes to EL, I can tell you that none of you have a good plan on BT acquistion, when to train what, when to switch level of training and what to actually do with those BTs.
What I did find out is my goal to max out EL worked perfectly but didn't actually perform like I thought it would. I still get manhandled at the LoS being an example. Maxing EL won't be the focus the next time I play Pee Wee however.
*****Disregard, offered a different solution below that makes more sense->
I'm sure everyone would love to see it done. When it comes to EL, I can tell you that none of you have a good plan on BT acquistion, when to train what, when to switch level of training and what to actually do with those BTs.
What I did find out is my goal to max out EL worked perfectly but didn't actually perform like I thought it would. I still get manhandled at the LoS being an example. Maxing EL won't be the focus the next time I play Pee Wee however.
*****Disregard, offered a different solution below that makes more sense->
Edited by R007C on Jul 5, 2026 12:49:30
Edited by R007C on Jul 5, 2026 12:47:32
Edited by R007C on Jul 5, 2026 12:46:45
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Actually if that’s not good enough (which according to you I’ll have no idea what I’m looking at anyway) send me a single build plan for a single dot and I’ll run it through the vpb and confirm . Pretty easy
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Originally posted by dusk883
I'm sure everyone would love to see it done. When it comes to EL, I can tell you that none of you have a good plan on BT acquistion, when to train what, when to switch level of training and what to actually do with those BTs.
What I did find out is my goal to max out EL worked perfectly but didn't actually perform like I thought it would. I still get manhandled at the LoS being an example. Maxing EL won't be the focus the next time I play Pee Wee however.
So are you spiking one attribute or building all attributes to a 1st cap, i have seen bad builds with slightly higher EL where it was taking a whole bunch of attributes to 1st cap.
I'm sure everyone would love to see it done. When it comes to EL, I can tell you that none of you have a good plan on BT acquistion, when to train what, when to switch level of training and what to actually do with those BTs.
What I did find out is my goal to max out EL worked perfectly but didn't actually perform like I thought it would. I still get manhandled at the LoS being an example. Maxing EL won't be the focus the next time I play Pee Wee however.
So are you spiking one attribute or building all attributes to a 1st cap, i have seen bad builds with slightly higher EL where it was taking a whole bunch of attributes to 1st cap.
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Originally posted by eastcoastbrian
EL maxing is an absolute pain; requires turning training on/ off managing the BTs to turn in at the exact times and knowing where to put the SPs for maximum value. I have 1 dot in the non-pee wee league that I started doing a max EL build for and after 1 season had to stop because the maintenance on just one dot became exhaustive and confusing, and I even have the build guidelines posted on the player page. even following it marginally though has produced a dot far superior in EL than my normal build plans.
This doesn't feel like Mob at all - at least not from where I'm sitting, especially having dusk's dots on other teams I've been a part of.
Willing to post those guide lines here? Would enjoy tinkering with a different approach to see how it works.
EL maxing is an absolute pain; requires turning training on/ off managing the BTs to turn in at the exact times and knowing where to put the SPs for maximum value. I have 1 dot in the non-pee wee league that I started doing a max EL build for and after 1 season had to stop because the maintenance on just one dot became exhaustive and confusing, and I even have the build guidelines posted on the player page. even following it marginally though has produced a dot far superior in EL than my normal build plans.
This doesn't feel like Mob at all - at least not from where I'm sitting, especially having dusk's dots on other teams I've been a part of.
Willing to post those guide lines here? Would enjoy tinkering with a different approach to see how it works.
Edited by *Birdman* on Jul 5, 2026 16:57:40
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So looking at bars on the matchup page it doesn't seem that those builds are a lot better than average, just higher EL. Interesting.
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Originally posted by *Birdman*
Willing to post those guide lines here? Would enjoy tinkering with a different approach to see how it works.
Its for 160+ day builds but if interested I can see if the person who gave them to me is ok if I share. I didn't figure it out and wouldn't want to share their build strategy if they wanted to keep it tight to the vest, but the end result is near 1550 EL + 3 pieces of AEQ. I don't mind saying the crux of the process is upping the training bonus beyond the traditional and not taking primary atts to the normal 81/84 before moving on. Oh.my dots Ol Pink Eye is following the process closely while Lois Neuterschmidt is using the principle.but applying it different. Lois is already falling behind.
I am going to be trying a bunch of stuff down here next season with builds, will be seeing if I can get to the 24/24 EL as I been able to hit 23 pretty easily/ consistently with one build approach.
Willing to post those guide lines here? Would enjoy tinkering with a different approach to see how it works.
Its for 160+ day builds but if interested I can see if the person who gave them to me is ok if I share. I didn't figure it out and wouldn't want to share their build strategy if they wanted to keep it tight to the vest, but the end result is near 1550 EL + 3 pieces of AEQ. I don't mind saying the crux of the process is upping the training bonus beyond the traditional and not taking primary atts to the normal 81/84 before moving on. Oh.my dots Ol Pink Eye is following the process closely while Lois Neuterschmidt is using the principle.but applying it different. Lois is already falling behind.
I am going to be trying a bunch of stuff down here next season with builds, will be seeing if I can get to the 24/24 EL as I been able to hit 23 pretty easily/ consistently with one build approach.
Edited by eastcoastbrian on Jul 5, 2026 18:56:16
Edited by eastcoastbrian on Jul 5, 2026 18:55:46
Edited by eastcoastbrian on Jul 5, 2026 18:55:26
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Originally posted by eastcoastbrian
Its for 160+ day builds but if interested I can see if the person who gave them to me is ok if I share. I didn't figure it out and wouldn't want to share their build strategy if they wanted to keep it tight to the vest, but the end result is near 1550 EL + 3 pieces of AEQ. I don't mind saying the crux of the process is upping the training bonus beyond the traditional and not taking primary atts to the normal 81/84 before moving on. Oh.my dots Ol Pink Eye is following the process closely while Lois Neuterschmidt is using the principle.but applying it different. Lois is already falling behind.
I am going to be trying a bunch of stuff down here next season with builds, will be seeing if I can get to the 24/24 EL as I been able to hit 23 pretty easily/ consistently with one build approach.
15 - 30 in this or any build plan is not possible. There are not enough training days in peewee to pull off that build.
Funny how Mob used to say the exact same phrasing you're using the entire first year when his dots had crazy high EL and SA firing constantly. He would stomp my team up the ladder which is an area I dominated for long time. Mob had me second guess everything and I spent countless hours trying to replicate build using VPB and AI. Guess I know who the source is as only three owners I know abused it. Only possible if you exploit training hacks and pump tons of BT into ur primary.
I said my bit. Pathetic.
So sad for a stupid gif
Its for 160+ day builds but if interested I can see if the person who gave them to me is ok if I share. I didn't figure it out and wouldn't want to share their build strategy if they wanted to keep it tight to the vest, but the end result is near 1550 EL + 3 pieces of AEQ. I don't mind saying the crux of the process is upping the training bonus beyond the traditional and not taking primary atts to the normal 81/84 before moving on. Oh.my dots Ol Pink Eye is following the process closely while Lois Neuterschmidt is using the principle.but applying it different. Lois is already falling behind.
I am going to be trying a bunch of stuff down here next season with builds, will be seeing if I can get to the 24/24 EL as I been able to hit 23 pretty easily/ consistently with one build approach.
15 - 30 in this or any build plan is not possible. There are not enough training days in peewee to pull off that build.
Funny how Mob used to say the exact same phrasing you're using the entire first year when his dots had crazy high EL and SA firing constantly. He would stomp my team up the ladder which is an area I dominated for long time. Mob had me second guess everything and I spent countless hours trying to replicate build using VPB and AI. Guess I know who the source is as only three owners I know abused it. Only possible if you exploit training hacks and pump tons of BT into ur primary.
I said my bit. Pathetic.
So sad for a stupid gif
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