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MontaviousX
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Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
Very good. Get back to me when you have 1 or 2 degrees of separation.

Do you have any idea how ludicrous your assertion sounds?


This isn’t just my assertion. Multiple people close to Elon have stated he uses Ketamine
 
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Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
No. Just no. The food pyramid was a *blatant* payoff to General Mills and a host of other big-food players. It was terrible, and it ruined a lot of people's health.


Again. What product is the food pyramid selling? There’s a difference between a bad/outdated policy and a president openly advertising a product in front of the White House. Including giving prices and breakdowns of rebates.

Which is ironic, considering how anti-EV he is
 
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*update*

I am less and less optimistic with each day that passes. The amount of stupid shit that flows out of trump's mouth all day long makes me think we are closer to implosion than I originally thought. I mean, there are zero people in his cabinet capable of rational thought. We are in that song Locomotive Breath by Jethro Tull.
 
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Originally posted by MontaviousX
Again. What product is the food pyramid selling? There’s a difference between a bad/outdated policy and a president openly advertising a product in front of the White House. Including giving prices and breakdowns of rebates.

Which is ironic, considering how anti-EV he is


It's a pretty clear example of a government agency setting public policy and positions to the detriment of its constituents. Simply to appease lobbyists and secure funding.

 
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Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
No. Just no. The food pyramid was a *blatant* payoff to General Mills and a host of other big-food players. It was terrible, and it ruined a lot of people's health.


Also, the food pyramid was started in the 70s in Sweden as a way to establish a diet that worked around the countries food shortages and rising costs. Which, again, an outdated model for what your diet should be, which stopped being used in 2005. So, again, a dietary model is not advertising specific brands to consumers. Yes, it didn’t help the country, but there were a LOT of other factors that ranked our overall health especially in the 90s when it was first introduced in America. The rise of fast food, the lack of real knowledge about diet/exercise/micro and macro tracking, portion sizes, etc. “serving sizes” weren’t even readily available until a year after the pyramid was introduced in America.
 
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Originally posted by MontaviousX
Again. What product is the food pyramid selling?


One of the fundamentals of "Economics", is that every product is competing with every other product that the same amount of money could be spent on. So if we were talking televisions, television sellers/manufacturers are not only competing with each other BUT with any other similarly priced product that is available.

So, the food pyramid *heavily* promoted grains/bread, and de-emphasized beef and other meats. Grains/bread *won* on the heavy endorsement of their product and has benefited for decades.

Edited by Larry Roadgrader on Mar 18, 2025 20:09:20
 
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Originally posted by ewinter43
*update*

I am less and less optimistic with each day that passes. The amount of stupid shit that flows out of trump's mouth all day long makes me think we are closer to implosion than I originally thought. I mean, there are zero people in his cabinet capable of rational thought. We are in that song Locomotive Breath by Jethro Tull.


I look forward to June. Perhaps then the hyper-ventilating will subside.

Just a reminder to all: Trump isn't an unknown quantity. He didn't throw "liberals"/"gays"/"colored people"/"actors"/etc into "camps" the first time around--its cute that anyone is pretending he'll suddenly do it *this* time around.
 
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Originally posted by MontaviousX
This isn’t just my assertion. Multiple people close to Elon have stated he uses Ketamine


Multiple people have asserted that Nancy Pelosi uses wine, and a lot of it, and that Paul Pelosi was involved in something less than uplifting at the time of the "hammer" incident.

What does any of that have to do with anything?
Edited by Larry Roadgrader on Mar 18, 2025 20:15:21
 
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Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
One of the fundamentals of "Economics", is that every product is competing with every other product that the same amount of money could be spent on. So if we were talking televisions, television sellers/manufacturers are not only competing with each other BUT with any other similarly priced product that is available.

So, the food pyramid *heavily* promoted grains/bread, and de-emphasized beef and other meats. Grains/bread *won* on the heavy endorsement of their product and has benefited for decades.



Good God, its worse than I remembered it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_pyramid_(nutrition)#/media/File:USDA_Food_Pyramid.gif
 
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Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
Multiple people have asserted that Nancy Pelosi uses wine, and a lot of it, and that Paul Pelosi was involved in something less than uplifting at the time of the "hammer" incident.

What does any of that have to do with anything?


If Pelosi is drunk in office, she should be removed. I don’t know what her husband has to do with anything.

If you are unfit to be in a position where you can directly affect hundreds of thousands or millions of lives, you should not be in that position. If I’m not allowed to walk in to work a little high, then neither should any of them. Don’t see what’s groundbreaking about that
 
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Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
One of the fundamentals of "Economics", is that every product is competing with every other product that the same amount of money could be spent on. So if we were talking televisions, television sellers/manufacturers are not only competing with each other BUT with any other similarly priced product that is available.

So, the food pyramid *heavily* promoted grains/bread, and de-emphasized beef and other meats. Grains/bread *won* on the heavy endorsement of their product and has benefited for decades.



And, again, was based on outdated science. Those same industries are still thriving today, and we as a society are more knowledgeable now than ever before when it comes to understanding what a “healthy” diet is. Yet we still ignore it. The TV dinner is the real criminal here
 
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Originally posted by MontaviousX
And, again, was based on outdated science. Those same industries are still thriving today, and we as a society are more knowledgeable now than ever before when it comes to understanding what a “healthy” diet is. Yet we still ignore it. The TV dinner is the real criminal here


I doubt that "science" was the driving factor behind the Food Pyramid.

Further, the argument that "those industries are still thriving today" ignores my original point--"Economics" asserts that every product is competing about every alternative in that same relative price range. Do you think the beef/meats industries are "thriving" at the rate they deserve in relation to the mega bread/grains industries?
 
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Originally posted by MizzouDizzle2
It's a pretty clear example of a government agency setting public policy and positions to the detriment of its constituents. Simply to appease lobbyists and secure funding.



 
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Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
I doubt that "science" was the driving factor behind the Food Pyramid.

Further, the argument that "those industries are still thriving today" ignores my original point--"Economics" asserts that every product is competing about every alternative in that same relative price range. Do you think the beef/meats industries are "thriving" at the rate they deserve in relation to the mega bread/grains industries?


What rate does any industry “deserve” to thrive at? I’m sure Big Meat isn’t hurting, they’ve just seen a backlash in their practices.
 
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Originally posted by MontaviousX
What rate does any industry “deserve” to thrive at? I’m sure Big Meat isn’t hurting, they’ve just seen a backlash in their practices.


They "deserve" to prosper at the rate they could without government interference. Instead the "Food Pyramid" promoted their competition at their detriment. We will never accurately know the cost of that fraudulent endorsement of breads/grains.
 
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