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Originally posted by Parab00n
Haven't thought this at all, defenders still take a ton of time to read run a lot of times.

Which has actually been a huge reason RQB's suck so bad now in the middle and lower tiers. Defenders just sit out there retardedly until the RQB runs into them.

I do definitely notice the easier block breaking on the outside when I scrim between Ashland and BEEF. Probably isn't as noticeable in the later tiers.

Originally posted by bhall43
Which has actually been a huge reason RQB's suck so bad now in the middle and lower tiers. Defenders just sit out there retardedly until the RQB runs into them.

I do definitely notice the easier block breaking on the outside when I scrim between Ashland and BEEF. Probably isn't as noticeable in the later tiers.

Maybe so, it's hard for me to actually watch a rookie/sophomore game it moves so slow.

EDIT: I'm all in favor of increasing more SPs/APs at lower levels. The game just isn't very fun when you are running around with 20 speed on offense/defense.

I don't think an increase in SP's is needed but definitely AP's. It is nice to build your player around the AP's and actually see your player progress rather than build the player and then finally reach a Gold SA and see a night and day difference in play.

If defenders can just sit outside and wait for the ballcarrier, the ballcarrier should have the option to cut inside when there is an opening. Its stupid otherwise.

Originally posted by Mysterio
If defenders can just sit outside and wait for the ballcarrier, the ballcarrier should have the option to cut inside when there is an opening. Its stupid otherwise.

Wasn't this part of Bort's changes? I haven't seen it yet. Maybe we have to be on elusive running or something? But all that seemed to happen with the changes was defenders moonwalking until the QB eventually reaches them.

Originally posted by Mysterio
If defenders can just sit outside and wait for the ballcarrier, the ballcarrier should have the option to cut inside when there is an opening. Its stupid otherwise.

Completely agree.

also this happens all the time now...CB runs away from the blocker while the safety takes the block. CB freaks out until QB reaches the sidelines and makes play.

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/186894/855099

Originally posted by bhall43
also this happens all the time now...CB runs away from the blocker while the safety takes the block. CB freaks out until QB reaches the sidelines and makes play.

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/186894/855099

Interesting that the safety is not the one sitting at the edge waiting as opposed to the CB. Better chance to break the tackle against the CB for the HB I would guess, meanwhile how much BRB/HG are safeties investing in?

Originally posted by Detroit Leos
Interesting that the safety is not the one sitting at the edge waiting as opposed to the CB. Better chance to break the tackle against the CB for the HB I would guess, meanwhile how much BRB/HG are safeties investing in?

Doubt it, honestly it kinda looks like a failed awareness check, he turns to run in the same direction the blocker is pointing. I think he's still "covering" the WR, whereas the safety is the man furthest outside and seems to be doing what Bort's change is for.

No idea what has to happen to get the HB to turn it inside sooner. Carry Awareness?

Off Tackle runs seem in a good place, cutting inside the OT if defenders are outside or bouncing it outside the OT if there's more daylight there. They already sort of did that before, and maybe it's wishful thinking, but it feels like they do it more or better now.

Originally posted by Detroit Leos
Interesting that the safety is not the one sitting at the edge waiting as opposed to the CB. Better chance to break the tackle against the CB for the HB I would guess, meanwhile how much BRB/HG are safeties investing in?

Generally safeties on my teams invest in a decent amount of BRB (50+). Not so much HG. I look at HG as more of a stand your ground and not get pushed back stat.

Originally posted by bhall43
Wasn't this part of Bort's changes? I haven't seen it yet. Maybe we have to be on elusive running or something? But all that seemed to happen with the changes was defenders moonwalking until the QB eventually reaches them.

Yes, but isn't there a common theme that no one should be building a HB with a ton of carrying awareness, because all of the evidence to date demonstrated that runners didn't seem to do anything differently when they had low awareness and high awareness?

Beef's HB's have around 50ish awareness

Originally posted by bhall43
Wasn't this part of Bort's changes? I haven't seen it yet. Maybe we have to be on elusive running or something? But all that seemed to happen with the changes was defenders moonwalking until the QB eventually reaches them.

It was not part of it. My qbs always run on elusive and almost never cut upfield, and even when he does, he never runs straight through the opening, he just the shitty thing you see on return plays where he reluctantly shuffles back and forth until he gets tackled or just runs straight into a defender engaged in a block and get tackled. Ballcarrier logic is absolutely terrible, and I understand the reluctance before to fix it since running was borderline OP, but now that its been castrated it should definitely be addressed

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Originally posted by Mysterio
It was not part of it. My qbs always run on elusive and almost never cut upfield, and even when he does, he just runs straight into a defender engaged in a block and get tackled. Ballcarrier logic is absolutely terrible, and I understand the reluctance before to fix it since running was borderline OP, but now that its been castrated it should definitely be addressed.

I'll agree

Originally posted by Time Trial
Yes, but isn't there a common theme that no one should be building a HB with a ton of carrying awareness, because all of the evidence to date demonstrated that runners didn't seem to do anything differently when they had low awareness and high awareness?
doesn't carrying awareness help more on inside runs than anything? Or is it literally just that elusive running is significantly more useful on inside runs than power running is