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Galithor
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Originally posted by Galactic Empire
He will also end up with 45 strip tech....along with 91 pursuit and 68 Break Run Block. Will also gold Contain Expert and Silver Shed Block. So yeah...good luck running outside on the Empire's defense next season. And that is just one line of defense.


Are there any examples out there of contain expert being good? The few times I've seen it, it looked like a poor mans version of shed block. And shed block isn't anything to write home about either really.
 
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Originally posted by Galactic Empire
He will also end up with 45 strip tech....along with 91 pursuit and 68 Break Run Block. Will also gold Contain Expert and Silver Shed Block. So yeah...good luck running outside on the Empire's defense next season. And that is just one line of defense.


Serious mistake golding Contain and silvering Shed. Shed is 1000000000x better.
 
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Not sure I would use Contain Expert again on any of my players. Sounded neat at the beginning but it really has been kinda a sham. Definitely wouldn't gold it again.
 
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Serious mistake golding Contain and silvering Shed. Shed is 1000000000x better.


 
Galithor
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Originally posted by bhall43
Not sure I would use Contain Expert again on any of my players. Sounded neat at the beginning but it really has been kinda a sham. Definitely wouldn't gold it again.


I honestly think it'd still suck if the bonuses were twice as big.
 
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Originally posted by Galithor
I honestly think it'd still suck if the bonuses were twice as big.


Even on a dedicated run stuffing corner that won't ever see coverage?

I was planning on both Gold Shed Block and Gold Contain Expert. Then maybe Silver Death Grip or something. I mean, it does trigger (up to) 75% of the time. My general theory was it's better to get off the block and attempt a tackle (even if you miss) then not attempt the tackle at all. You can at least slow down the RB for a few ticks, maybe.
 
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Originally posted by Galithor
I honestly think it'd still suck if the bonuses were twice as big.


My main run support LB and Run stopping DE's its pretty decent for so a double bonus would be pretty big on the outside there. It just isn't the same level as Shed Block though. It is like comparing Tunnel Vision to Spin Cycle. Except Contain Expert only works outside.
 
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Originally posted by Absolut Zero
Even on a dedicated run stuffing corner that won't ever see coverage?

I was planning on both Gold Shed Block and Gold Contain Expert. Then maybe Silver Death Grip or something. I mean, it does trigger (up to) 75% of the time. My general theory was it's better to get off the block and attempt a tackle (even if you miss) then not attempt the tackle at all. You can at least slow down the RB for a few ticks, maybe.


This was my original thought. But now I would probably Gold Shed Block, Gold Monster Hit or Death Grip, and silver Showboat.
 
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If contain expert had shed block's stun, it'd be better.

If shed block's stun were 100% like spin cycle, and had the associated "get away from the blocker" move like spin cycle, it'd be better.
Edited by Galithor on Mar 3, 2015 12:08:38
 
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Originally posted by Galithor

If shed block's stun were 100% like spin cycle, and had the associated "get away from the blocker" move like spin cycle, it'd be better.


It would also completely take blocking out of the game...
 
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Originally posted by Stixx
It would also completely take blocking out of the game...


Welcome to the pass-blocking O-lineman's hell.

http://imgur.com/zkr4dI9
 
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Serious mistake golding Contain and silvering Shed. Shed is 1000000000x better.


Well...if my Break Run Block was higher, I would. Contain Expert is powered by pursuit (91) and Shed Block is powered by Break Run Block (68). If I gold C.E. it will add 15 to my Break Run Block, making it 83, which will in turn help Shed Block fire.
 
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Originally posted by Galithor
Welcome to the pass-blocking O-lineman's hell.

http://imgur.com/zkr4dI9


I mean it is plausible that it could be done but they would need to tie another skill to it besides just brb so that people can't have a godly SA without hurting their build in other areas. However, I don't think a change like this would go over too well. The inside run game would be non-existent
 
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Originally posted by Stixx
I mean it is plausible that it could be done but they would need to tie another skill to it besides just brb so that people can't have a godly SA without hurting their build in other areas. However, I don't think a change like this would go over too well. The inside run game would be non-existent


Inside run game is already hard enough, especially after the BRB buff and run blocking nerf. If you can't stop the run now, you have some serious build issues.
Edited by Galactic Empire on Mar 3, 2015 13:54:55
Edited by Galactic Empire on Mar 3, 2015 13:54:54
 
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Originally posted by Galactic Empire
Inside run game is already hard enough, especially after the BRB buff and run blocking nerf. If you can't stop the run now, you have some serious build issues.


Or you are facing the Stunners.
 
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