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Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by Deathblade

Originally posted by Catullus 16

and GTFO only really became universal a few seasons ago.
LOLOLOL WAT?
GTFO has been around WAY before GLB was even thought of.

that's not at all what i mean, of course.

i'm saying GTFO wasn't universal within GLB until a few seasons ago. same thing with "wat" a couple seasons before that.

now everyone says it and everyone gets it.

so... cpl needs to be punished for setting trends?

Originally posted by Azure Dreams
Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by Azure Dreams
Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by Azure Dreams
Those arent' examples of what you described. Please go look at FLGators threads. He incited flames by being condescending and elitist in the first place. Claiming the moral highground and damning us sinners and our ways to hell. That isn't just coming in saying "hey what's up".... If he didn't mean it, it would be textbook brilliant trolling.
links?
actually never mind. probably a bad example then... although the timeline effect here is interesting, considering any other random user visiting the CPL for the first time mid-process might come to a similar flawed understanding.
and besides, this still doesn't speak to the task of preventing this sort of thing.
preventing something that isn't happening? Not a high priority for me, tbh.
wrong "something". i'm talking about the topic of this thread at large.
and even if i wasn't, i stand as proof that it does happen, right?
uh.. wait, what? proof that what happens, sir?
...alternative solutiosn?

proof that someone can come in "mid-process" and arrive at a flawed understanding.

i.e. the first CPL posts i ever saw from FLgator and roctronic didn't seem that bad to me, and thus i thought they didn't warrant the response they got. now that i know the background, i understand where you're coming from. that's my point.

Originally posted by Azure Dreams
Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by Azure Dreams
Thouug that's hardly in any way an eichmann-related argument. If you'll notice I said they HEAD UP the cpl camp. little hitler argument, if anything. Only way that in any way relates to eichmann's situation is that he was a nazi and i mentioend swastikas.
0/10 analogy.
that's not what the "little eichmann" argument is, of course.
although the "eichmann defense" is actually a little more applicable.
little eichmann argument =/= eichmann defense =/= eichmann
well then I don't know what it means
Which also relates to the post prior to this one about the burden being mine.

there's this new website called google.

See Catullus, I saw that FLgator thread and before I even read it I was like...oh fuck shit's goin' down

Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by Azure Dreams

Originally posted by Catullus 16

Originally posted by Azure Dreams

Originally posted by Catullus 16

Originally posted by Azure Dreams

Those arent' examples of what you described. Please go look at FLGators threads. He incited flames by being condescending and elitist in the first place. Claiming the moral highground and damning us sinners and our ways to hell. That isn't just coming in saying "hey what's up".... If he didn't mean it, it would be textbook brilliant trolling.
links?
actually never mind. probably a bad example then... although the timeline effect here is interesting, considering any other random user visiting the CPL for the first time mid-process might come to a similar flawed understanding.
and besides, this still doesn't speak to the task of preventing this sort of thing.
preventing something that isn't happening? Not a high priority for me, tbh.
wrong "something". i'm talking about the topic of this thread at large.
and even if i wasn't, i stand as proof that it does happen, right?
uh.. wait, what? proof that what happens, sir?
...alternative solutiosn?

proof that someone can come in "mid-process" and arrive at a flawed understanding.

i.e. the first CPL posts i ever saw from FLgator and roctronic didn't seem that bad to me, and thus i thought they didn't warrant the response they got. now that i know the background, i understand where you're coming from. that's my point.

oh, i understand.

And you know how you responded? You said what seeemed to be the case to you but admitted that you didn't have the full story. You got the full story and realized that they were in the wrong.

Know what the idiotic mods did? Started banning CPLers reasonlessly instead of figuring out what the fucking deal actually is.

More support for the (mods need to stop blowing) idea.

Originally posted by Azure Dreams
Except it doesn't... Need I refer to roctronic again?

you're referring to the bolded? i still think it applies.

moreover, i'm obviously talking about more people than just roctronic, so you can't just cling to your pet counter-example like that. i'm not making any sweeping generalities here.

Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by Azure Dreams

Originally posted by Catullus 16

Originally posted by Azure Dreams

Thouug that's hardly in any way an eichmann-related argument. If you'll notice I said they HEAD UP the cpl camp. little hitler argument, if anything. Only way that in any way relates to eichmann's situation is that he was a nazi and i mentioend swastikas.
0/10 analogy.
that's not what the "little eichmann" argument is, of course.
although the "eichmann defense" is actually a little more applicable.
little eichmann argument =/= eichmann defense =/= eichmann
well then I don't know what it means
Which also relates to the post prior to this one about the burden being mine.

there's this new website called google.

I'm calling drksandman, this makes me feel stupid and hinders my experience here. please stop flouting the rules.

Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by Azure Dreams

Except it doesn't... Need I refer to roctronic again?

you're referring to the bolded? i still think it applies.

moreover, i'm obviously talking about more people than just roctronic, so you can't just cling to your pet counter-example like that. i'm not making any sweeping generalities here.

But you haven't given a valid example.

Originally posted by Azure Dreams
Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by Azure Dreams
Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by Azure Dreams
but when is this blitzkrieg unleashed upons omeone who was not acting in an inflammatory manner? At least in the last 4 months.
you guys seriously underestimate yourselves.
example plz
well, but you never recognize it. you would have to be willing to listen to the perceptions of people that you already disagree with.
or i could list examples that are so bound-up politically that you'd never see the tree for the forest (no typo) and the point would be lost -- like..... onepeat?
the next time you see someone getting bent of shape in the CPL, you should ask yourself -- is this person just naturally a powder-keg ready to blow? or am i just that good at upsetting people (regardless of whether or not they deserve it)?
Just because I argue against something doesn't mean I don't see the point. I understood and conceded a lot from our myriad arguments regarding onepeat.
And, I like to think I'm very willing to listen to the perceptions of people I disagree with. If I weren't, I'd have invited a considerably different crowd to this forum than I did. And it wouldn't include you, becuase... well, you're doing waht I hoped you would (though to an even more thorough degree, mr. lurker)
btw, you said to check my PMs. Max just PM'd me (said GG everyone, he'll post later), is that what you meant or are you still gonna send me some naked pics?

well, isn't onepeat enough of an example?

noods forthcoming... but i need to finish up here first.

Originally posted by Deathblade
Cat...

Here's a pretty good analogy. You move into a neighborhood, go around and shit on everyone's table...then get pissy when your table is covered in shit the next day.

Please find somewhere where this isn't the case of what is happening. Sure, new "innocent" people might get an insult or two in a 5 page thread, but 9 times out of 10, it will be filled with not caring for 2-3 pages, then the subject will change to TF2, or French Toast.

i understand that's your narrative... and it's similar to cheesey's. i'm saying that the GG crowd has a completely different narrative, similar to the one i described earlier.

further, i'm still standing by two mechanisms here:
- the asymmetry effect (where "victims" perceive the CPL as single entity and respond to the aggregate)
- the fact that what passes for a non-insult in the CPL is often still insulting to the non-initiated

an example of the latter is those 2-3 pages of "not caring" are often quite derisive -- why else would the person respond the way they do?

Also let's clear something up. The 'GG' crowd is like six people.

Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by Deathblade

Cat...

Here's a pretty good analogy. You move into a neighborhood, go around and shit on everyone's table...then get pissy when your table is covered in shit the next day.

Please find somewhere where this isn't the case of what is happening. Sure, new "innocent" people might get an insult or two in a 5 page thread, but 9 times out of 10, it will be filled with not caring for 2-3 pages, then the subject will change to TF2, or French Toast.

i understand that's your narrative... and it's similar to cheesey's. i'm saying that the GG crowd has a completely different narrative, similar to the one i described earlier.

further, i'm still standing by two mechanisms here:
- the asymmetry effect (where "victims" perceive the CPL as single entity and respond to the aggregate)
- the fact that what passes for a non-insult in the CPL is often still insulting to the non-initiated

an example of the latter is those 2-3 pages of "not caring" are often quite derisive -- why else would the person respond the way they do?

Because they want to be cared about.

Originally posted by Azure Dreams
Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by Azure Dreams
because they're terrible mods who can't stand people who don't submit to them in every way. They're power-hungry and unprofessional.
You'd have a point if we had mods that were established as good or even decent but these are fucking terrible mods so their horrible behavior is in no way surprising. It wasn't BigT invading our forum, it was voltron. the feudel of mods.
so... mods that agree with you = awesome and mods that disagree with you = terrible, power-hungry, and unprofessional?
this isn't a convincing argument, even if you are right.
I cite such people as Jed and BigT to invalidate your claim. Jed does a lot of disagreeing with me and supporting the administration and other mods when I think he's wrong (and have a suspicion he sometimes knows they're wrong), but he isn't a terrible mod usually.

Hell, voltron, darkus, and NMV have all agreed with me on various occasions, but they were still terrible mods. Bones doesn't generally agree with me and I don't dislike the fellow, but he's a terrible mod. I have never had a run-in with a number of other people, but they're still terrible mods.

I argue with VT all the fucking time, on the other hand, and he's still a pretty good mod. BigT isn't here supporting me and I've been maintaining that he's the best mod (though less active) since we lost Ash.

i'm not sure how this invalidates my claim... especially since i'm not sure i even made one.

i mean, you're the one who specified a population of "fucking terrible mods"... so all you've really done here is furnish a list of people who you're saying aren't in that category.

or maybe i'm missing something here.

Originally posted by Azure Dreams
Originally posted by Catullus 16
um... mod bashing is pretty much against the rules.
although i'm guessing you didn't get the big pallow letter. did untouchable?
Which big pallow letter? untouchable, gart, and I all got various things from pallow and max.
And no, disagreeing with mods is completely 100% not against the rules. This was not an example of harassing a user, and that is the only time you can justify banning for mod bashing.

disagreeing with mods =/= mod bashing

and i'm talking about the long pallow letter sent out about a month ago. malachorn got one, nfrat got one... maybe it was just a freemal thing?

Originally posted by Catullus 16
Originally posted by Azure Dreams

Originally posted by Catullus 16

um... mod bashing is pretty much against the rules.
although i'm guessing you didn't get the big pallow letter. did untouchable?
Which big pallow letter? untouchable, gart, and I all got various things from pallow and max.
And no, disagreeing with mods is completely 100% not against the rules. This was not an example of harassing a user, and that is the only time you can justify banning for mod bashing.

disagreeing with mods =/= mod bashing

and i'm talking about the long pallow letter sent out about a month ago. malachorn got one, nfrat got one... maybe it was just a freemal thing?

but disagreeing with mods is what happened, not mod bashing.