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Originally posted by robelder
I noticed that there are 5 winless teams still in Zeta. Not good. I thought the whole league would be more competitive this year, but instead many teams got worse and only a few got better. I didn't see that coming.

I think part of the problem is some of those teams had really tough early schedules. I believe the Parrots, Wildcats, Wild Monkeys, and Razorbacks are all better than there winless record indicates. The Invaders are the only team that I think are really that non competitive due to their rebuilding/gutting.

Originally posted by TrueBlueInMD
Originally posted by sheashu

Good game Madrid. We had some roster issues I was unaware of which played into the outcome, but we'll get it straight next time for sure.

Well, fancy meeting you here!

Haha, indeed

Originally posted by robelder
I noticed that there are 5 winless teams still in Zeta. Not good. I thought the whole league would be more competitive this year, but instead many teams got worse and only a few got better. I didn't see that coming.

5 undefeated clubs too. The top 6 in Zeta (5 3-0 teams plus Rome who lost to the Hammers in week one) are nasty. It's more about schedule for a lot of the winless teams in Zeta right now. After playing them today, I'll tell you the Parrots are better than that record. They just get to play 4 very good teams to start the season.

If anything, I think the gap between Alpha and Zeta has grown.

Originally posted by CaliGaucho
If anything, I think the gap between Alpha and Zeta has grown.

Bah! Oh come on now, I was just starting to like you and then you go and dis on my conference! And why do you have time to post when we don't see a write up yet?

Schedules can have a lot to do with it. I was on a team last season that went 0-4 (Putting up 3 points total in those games) and then 1-5. They still managed to reach the playoffs after they were done with the top 5 teams in the league. The point of this? Well, the season isn't over for anyone at this stage.

Originally posted by CaliGaucho
Originally posted by robelder

I noticed that there are 5 winless teams still in Zeta. Not good. I thought the whole league would be more competitive this year, but instead many teams got worse and only a few got better. I didn't see that coming.

5 undefeated clubs too. The top 6 in Zeta (5 3-0 teams plus Rome who lost to the Hammers in week one) are nasty. It's more about schedule for a lot of the winless teams in Zeta right now. After playing them today, I'll tell you the Parrots are better than that record. They just get to play 4 very good teams to start the season.

If anything, I think the gap between Alpha and Zeta has grown.

Thanks for the kind words.

I'm not sure about the other winless teams but I have to say, we're trying to improve but recruiting is brutal. We've been trying to get backup LBs for over a week (level 10's or so) only to get outbid and these players signing elsewhere for like 160k. Ridiculous! We tried to get some cpu LBs last night but they ended up elsewhere. I'm not offering this as an excuse but I get the feeling too many teams were released this season and teams like the Parrots who are trying to improve are having a bear of a time getting player help to improve

Plus, facing complete teams like the Cardinals doesn't help matters

Originally posted by CaliGaucho
Originally posted by robelder

I noticed that there are 5 winless teams still in Zeta. Not good. I thought the whole league would be more competitive this year, but instead many teams got worse and only a few got better. I didn't see that coming.

5 undefeated clubs too. The top 6 in Zeta (5 3-0 teams plus Rome who lost to the Hammers in week one) are nasty. It's more about schedule for a lot of the winless teams in Zeta right now. After playing them today, I'll tell you the Parrots are better than that record. They just get to play 4 very good teams to start the season.

If anything, I think the gap between Alpha and Zeta has grown.

I realize that the top teams are playing the bottom teams so that is the reason why you still have 5 undefeated and also why you have so many without wins.

In some ways Alpha has improved and others it has regressed. I think there are about 3 teams from the middle that got much better. And a couple of the bottom teams got much better. But probably half the teams in Alpha stayed pretty close to the same as far as quality roster or got much worse. I was sad to see that. I thought many teams would get much better, but as it was said, recruiting was very challenging this year and if you didn't have a lot of wins or money, it was even tougher.

Is Zeta better than Alpha? The top of Zeta right now is much stronger in my opinion, but teams ranked 5-16, I would pick Alpha in most of those battles. It is early though. I'm not just being a homer. I feel the same as you do that some of these teams are a lot better than you may think by seeing their record. The Judah Lions and Bulls have really impressed me so far. Both are playing much better than their roster.

Originally posted by CaliGaucho
After playing them today, I'll tell you the Parrots are better than that record. They just get to play 4 very good teams to start the season.


I think the Parrots are one of Zeta's most improved teams, and it's nice to see them moving along. I wouldn't wish their opening schedule on anyone.. I wouldn't have even wanted to play all of those other times to open up the season.

Originally posted by dsobiera
I'm not sure about the other winless teams but I have to say, we're trying to improve but recruiting is brutal. We've been trying to get backup LBs for over a week (level 10's or so) only to get outbid and these players signing elsewhere for like 160k. Ridiculous! We tried to get some cpu LBs last night but they ended up elsewhere. I'm not offering this as an excuse but I get the feeling too many teams were released this season and teams like the Parrots who are trying to improve are having a bear of a time getting player help to improve

This is a statement I also agree with, recruiting was tough, especially for backup players for us. If anyone hasn't looked at our whole roster, you'll notice we're lacking in some positions (such as LB). Luckily enough for us, our players in those positions have relatively good stamina, so we're able to pull it off.

It's also crossed my mind that players were more difficult to obtain this year due to the increasing number of teams.. and I personally hope they slow down on team expansion in the very near future, otherwise you're going to be having to drop 200k yearly contracts on level 8 players.

Oh well.. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens!

I think Bort wants the contracts to get bigger and bigger. He said that he wants it to be a players market. With the addition of things to buy and the endorsements and big contract bonus to your player, it is going to be all about the money in the future. It makes sense from Bort's perspective. He wants players to love the game and start spending money. If they are on a D league team and can't find a team, then they may quit playing.

Originally posted by robelder
I think Bort wants the contracts to get bigger and bigger. He said that he wants it to be a players market. With the addition of things to buy and the endorsements and big contract bonus to your player, it is going to be all about the money in the future. It makes sense from Bort's perspective. He wants players to love the game and start spending money. If they are on a D league team and can't find a team, then they may quit playing.

The problem with that for a team like the Parrots is two fold:

1) We get more $ when we build onto our stadium and get ticket and concession sales. But we cannot build onto our stadium until we get more $. It's a vicious circle. So, knowing what I do now, if I could go back in time I wouldn't have signed a single human player last season. I would have taken that cheap cpu roster and fielded a non competitive team and threw all my profits into expanding. I'd probably would have done that this season too.

2) For some reason, there's a stigma with Europe. I got several PMs from players that said contract was fine, role was fine but that they wanted to play for an American team. I have zero friends with players on my team.

To me, other than elevation- parity cannot exist in GLB. Or not easily. Teams like the Parrots (middle tier team in the conference - gulp I hope) will not be able to compete with the likes of better teams as we don't lack the will but FAIR access to the player pool. We'll keep trying through so I'm not going to use that as a lame excuse for why things are.

If a players' market is what Bort wants, he needs some sort of compulsory service to go along with the FA role. Like maybe one can choose to create a different type of player. If you do that, you start at level 10 (instead of 1) but must be drafted and play for a season by a team that drafts you. Or a player is a restricted FA when created and comes into a certain league on creation so that his first year he has to sign with a Africa or European team (depending on where he was assigned on creation). Something like that.

- Damian

A draft........... that's kind of a cool idea I hadn't thought of before. Digressing from this thread and all..., but yeah.

Every player on creation must be drafted. Only problem is that with so many leagues kicking off at the same time it would be impossible to get a draft order. Logistically a nightmare..., but a cool concept if they could figure out a reasonable way to institute it.

And man, if you had only CPU players on your team... try recruiting in that situation. Aint gonna happen. Yeah, I said aint! LoL You think it's hard to recruit from the middle, try recruiting from the bottom with all CPU's...

We finished 2nd in Alpha, have the biggest stadium in WE 2, and still had trouble recruiting players. Most of the guys in here that have the mad skilz players have them because they're friends of theirs. Don't sweat it. If you build it they will come... Just gonna take time, getting out of the 'A' league and maybe getting a friend or two to join up.

I dont really understand why players prefer teams listed in the American leagues over other leagues. I think you would be better off without the players that only want to play on an American league team. Many of the non American leagues have American city/teams anyway. Seems silly to let the league name determine where you go.

And before anyone thinks otherwise I am an American from the midwest. Served in both the Army and Navy. Remove my cap and place my hand over my heart whenever the National Anthem is played. And am proud to be from America.

I just dont think that should play into deciding where to sign your player for GLB.

Just my two pennies...

I think most of the players in GLB are American... there are a lot of other nations here too, but I'd say it's primarily American.

League name has nothing to do with it. I think Bort must have some grand plan where there's a supreme league eventually. Hell, every team I played on so far I joined because they had the best offer. I stayed because I liked the team chemistry.

I think the stigmata goes back to Alpha where the American League was the first one to fill out full rosters... A kind of history in that I guess. Just a stereotype anymore though.

When this game gets out of Beta and goes live it'll matter that much less what league you play in.

Originally posted by dsobiera
Originally posted by robelder

I think Bort wants the contracts to get bigger and bigger. He said that he wants it to be a players market. With the addition of things to buy and the endorsements and big contract bonus to your player, it is going to be all about the money in the future. It makes sense from Bort's perspective. He wants players to love the game and start spending money. If they are on a D league team and can't find a team, then they may quit playing.

The problem with that for a team like the Parrots is two fold:

1) We get more $ when we build onto our stadium and get ticket and concession sales. But we cannot build onto our stadium until we get more $. It's a vicious circle. So, knowing what I do now, if I could go back in time I wouldn't have signed a single human player last season. I would have took that cheap cpu roster and fielded a non competitive team and threw all my profits into expanding. I'd probably would have done that this season too.

2) For some reason, there's a stigma with Europe. I got several PMs from players that said contract was fine, role was fine but that they wanted to play for an American team. I have zero friends with players on my team.

To me, other than elevation- parody cannot exist in GLB. Or not easily. Teams like the Parrots (middle tier team in the conference - gulp I hope) will not be able to compete with the likes of better teams as we don't lack the will but FAIR access to the player pool. We'll keep trying through so I'm not going to use that as a lame excuse for why things are.

If a players' market is what Bort wants, he needs some sort of compulsory service to go along with the FA role. Like maybe one can choose to create a different type of player. If you do that, you start at level 10 (instead of 1) but must be drafted and play for a season by a team that drafts you. Or a player is a restricted FA when created and comes into a certain league on creation so that his first year he has to sign with a Africa or European team (depending on where he was assigned on creation). Something like that.

- Damian



Record and chemistry were the big reasons to sign coming into season 3. Season 4 money, starting, and record were a lot of the reasons. Every year with changes in the game people sign for different reasons. I will tell you that forming friends who own players and then getting them to bring friends off of other teams that are poor is very helpful. You could find a couple of guys with some quality players that want to be GM's and give them some GM powers and ask them to bring over their guys to your team and that will help as well.

I say all that and maybe 3 of the free agents I signed came from relationship, but those are the easiest to sign. You can also put some of your guys that don't start on other teams to make new friends and then ask them to bring players over as well. My team had 3 guys who sent literally thousands of emails for maybe a hundred responses and then emailed like crazy until we convinced them. Only one agent got big money, the other guys got close to the minimum.

I couldn't of recruited without my two friends help they each landed a couple guys. I also landed another 10 or so. I also couldn't have done it without a good record and great forum. Both of those helped sell our team. Without the record, you have to go the route of trades, large contracts, guaranteed playing time, and getting friends to join.

It may take a season or two, but if you start working on relationships early and recruiting now you could have 10-15 guys ready for next season committed and it may help to keep the guys you have that are wavering between staying or leaving.

Originally posted by tahl

League name has nothing to do with it.


That's not what a lot of the players think. I've had many potential players PM me and say that they "want to play for an American league team, nothing personal."