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It seems then that the Bengals, Wildcats, and Bolts would be heavy favorites to make the "Top Four" with the Warriors given an outside chance.

The Hangovers would be a long shot and probably wouldn't get into the top four unless one of the teams other than the Wildcats lose...which doesn't seem likely.
 
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Originally posted by lawdog
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To make it all the way to 12-4 in the West...a very good feat considering the level of the competition...and then not to get a home playoff game is going to, well, SUCK.


You should get the 3rd seed even if you lose to the Sharks, unless one of the other teams scores about 100 points.


I think that is about how I figure it too.

And looking at the other playoff teams, there simply are no easy wins there. Anyone one of the playoff teams could actually win the Conference title with a few breaks...sure, there are favorites to win it, but with a few breaks...

 
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Now I'm not so sure that points will be the deciding factor. If Wildcats lose, and all others win, it will be a 5-way tie for 2nd place. Of those 5 teams, the Warriors have the best record amongst the teams, at 3-1. The Bengals, Bolts, and Wildcats are 2-2. The Hangovers are 1-3 (ironically their only victory in this group is against the Warriors).

If it plays out this way, the Warriors would get the 2 seed. Then the 3/4/5 seeds would come down to total points between the Bengals/Bolts/Wildcats, which would put the Bengals #3, Wildcats #4, Bolts #5. The Hangovers would be #6.

Was that confusing?
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Originally posted by lawdog
Now I'm not so sure that points will be the deciding factor. If Wildcats lose, and all others win, it will be a 5-way tie for 2nd place. Of those 5 teams, the Warriors have the best record amongst the teams, at 3-1. The Bengals, Bolts, and Wildcats are 2-2. The Hangovers are 1-3 (ironically their only victory in this group is against the Warriors).

If it plays out this way, the Warriors would get the 2 seed. Then the 3/4/5 seeds would come down to total points between the Bengals/Bolts/Wildcats, which would put the Bengals #3, Wildcats #4, Bolts #5. The Hangovers would be #6.

Was that confusing?


Okay, I think I know how they do it...at least it's the only way that makes the current standings work and still fits how I understand it.

Among teams that are tied, the "Head to Head" becomes wins and losses among the tied teams. So, among the four teams tied at 11-4 right now, the Bolts and Warriors are both 2-1 with the Bolts scoring the more points; the Bengals and Hangovers are both 1/2 with the Bengals scoring the more points.

That is the only way that makes the current standings work.

 
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So, among the head-to-head/common opponents of the TIED teams, the Warriors would be first with a 3-1 record, the Bengals, Wildcats, and Bolts would all have 2-2 records, and the Hangovers would have a 1-3 record.

Then among the 2-2 teams, the Bengals are the high scorers followed by the Wildcats and then the Bolts.

So, in the five way tie, the Bolts and the Hangovers would be the odd teams out.
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Among the tied teams, the "Head to head" would essentially become how they fared against each other.
 
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In a five way tie, the top six teams would be

Pewnts
Warriors
Bengals
Wildcats
Bolts
Hangovers
 
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In the five way tie, the Warriors are already locked in at the top and the Hangovers are already locked in at the bottom.

It's just the 2-2 teams that would have any fudge factor and Bolts would need to score 74 more points than the Wildcats to get into the top 4.

It could happen considering the team they play is winless.
 
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Originally posted by Fandom
In a five way tie, the top six teams would be

Pewnts
Warriors
Bengals
Wildcats
Bolts
Hangovers


This is what I am thinking. I hope we are wrong though, so I can get the 2 seed
 
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I think if the Wildcats lose, the Warriors will get the number two seed by virtue of their better head-to-head among the tied teams.
 
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Originally posted by Fandom

Among teams that are tied, the "Head to Head" becomes wins and losses among the tied teams. So, among the four teams tied at 11-4 right now, the Bolts and Warriors are both 2-1 with the Bolts scoring the more points; the Bengals and Hangovers are both 1/2 with the Bengals scoring the more points.


But wouldn't the head-to-head factor between the Bolts/Warriors be the deciding factor between their seeds? This should give the higher seed to the Warriors, not the Bolts.
 
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So, if we lose against the Sharks, we can mathematically finish anywhere from 3rd to 5th although we will likely finish 4th.

 
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Originally posted by lawdog
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Among teams that are tied, the "Head to Head" becomes wins and losses among the tied teams. So, among the four teams tied at 11-4 right now, the Bolts and Warriors are both 2-1 with the Bolts scoring the more points; the Bengals and Hangovers are both 1/2 with the Bengals scoring the more points.


But wouldn't the head-to-head factor between the Bolts/Warriors be the deciding factor between their seeds? This should give the higher seed to the Warriors, not the Bolts.


I don't think so. I think it is head-to-head among the tied teams. That's the only way that makes the other standings work out.

 
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I don't know how it works for certain, but the only way that makes the standings all fall in place are the head-to-head among the tied teams.
 
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man, that punt return fumble touchdown is really hurting my ass now.
 
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