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Go Pack 120
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Originally posted by Catullus16
buy a few "hall of fame" flex packages and make it worth his time.

until then, i'm just happy the lights are still on.


You could say that about literally every suggestion though. "You want this implemented? Go pay money." If that's the case, then why is this subforum even here?
 
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Originally posted by Go Pack 120
While that's a spectacular outlook to have in general, it's been proven that he isn't going to do anything to fix the actual issue. Also, it should not be a massive time-sink to give them a 10% boost in attributes and go from there. I don't think the idea is to make CPU games competitive, but the game ending 100-0 vs 400-0 is a massive improvement.


Listen, the only reason we even have the ability to create Offensive plays and the shortened path to LVL 79 now is because the database got corrupt as well as the backups. If it wasn't for that everything would be the same as it was before that happened. The other thing is whether the score is 100-0 or 400-0 it still isn't a game and like jcross said if you piss off any of the current userbase with such a move it would be counter productive. So if Bort does make any change(s) I don't see this being one of them, but I personally don't think he will make any changes TBH. As far as the suggestion forum goes it had a purpose when the game/userbase was full strength, but at this time it really has no purpose because of the games age and the diminished userbase.

Edited by Mauler on Jun 19, 2025 04:38:04
 
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Originally posted by Mauler
Listen, the only reason we even have the ability to create Offensive plays and the shortened path to LVL 79 now is because the database got corrupt as well as the backups. If it wasn't for that everything would be the same as it was before that happened. The other thing is whether the score is 100-0 or 400-0 it still isn't a game and like jcross said if you piss off any of the current userbase with such a move it would be counter productive. So if Bort does make any change(s) I don't see this being one of them, but I personally don't think he will make any changes TBH. As far as the suggestion forum goes it had a purpose when the game/userbase was full strength, but at this time it really has no purpose because of the games age and the diminished userbase.



this.

He doesn't even fix my offense preset to help casual (two tickets, two seasons, zero responses).
 
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Originally posted by Go Pack 120
While that's a spectacular outlook to have in general, it's been proven that he isn't going to do anything to fix the actual issue. Also, it should not be a massive time-sink to give them a 10% boost in attributes and go from there. I don't think the idea is to make CPU games competitive, but the game ending 100-0 vs 400-0 is a massive improvement.


Exactly this. It's pretty much a conclusion now that Bort isn't going to spend much, or any time improving the sim, or playcalling, or anything.

Tweaking a few numbers in a database is low effort (kinda, still needs testing etc) task that will stop the absolute blowout games. It gets to the point sometimes where the stats are so absurd, I don't even watch highlights. I've had a DE get 75 sacks in a game, a QB throw 21 TDs, these are stupid.

 
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They did that once before. Revoked it because people complained about losing to CPU teams. They weren't that good, change resulted in winning by 100 points instead of 200+.
 
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Originally posted by StabbyMcGinge
Exactly this. It's pretty much a conclusion now that Bort isn't going to spend much, or any time improving the sim, or playcalling, or anything.

Tweaking a few numbers in a database is low effort (kinda, still needs testing etc) task that will stop the absolute blowout games. It gets to the point sometimes where the stats are so absurd, I don't even watch highlights. I've had a DE get 75 sacks in a game, a QB throw 21 TDs, these are stupid.



I's just NGTH for the reason's stated. You can write about it all you want, but as far as stats being ridiculous goes that is why there is blowout adjusted stats to determine MVP. I consider this a non issue and I am sure Bort does as well.

 
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Originally posted by Dr. E
They did that once before. Revoked it because people complained about losing to CPU teams. They weren't that good, change resulted in winning by 100 points instead of 200+.


Like I said, the last thing Bort wants to do is piss off what little userbase he has left. Might as well ask him to get rid of multi's why your at as well as that is something else that is NGTH!

Edited by Mauler on Jun 19, 2025 11:00:24
Edited by Mauler on Jun 19, 2025 10:59:58
 
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Bort isn't changing anything lol

 
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Originally posted by Go Pack 120
You could say that about literally every suggestion though. "You want this implemented? Go pay money." If that's the case, then why is this subforum even here?


pick an answer:

1) You could say that about literally every subforum though.
2) this forum is to discuss suggestions and how they might be implemented (e.g. buy some flex)
3) you've hit upon the futility of your post, my post, this thread, and this forum. nicely done.
4) what is the meaning of life? why is there something rather than nothing?
5) Bort isn't changing anything lol
 
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Originally posted by Mauler
Like I said, the last thing Bort wants to do is piss off what little userbase he has left. Might as well ask him to get rid of multi's why your at as well as that is something else that is NGTH!



How does making CPU teams better tick people off? I understand not wanting to make CPU players on the FA market better than the human dots, but once the resets are done and half to three quarters of the league are CPU teams then that's when you adjust.

Anyone who plays any video games knows there's a final boss that is built to give you a run for your money. There's nothing more boring than 450-0. And worse than boring you can't test builds, you can't evaluate player progress and effectiveness.

Would think it would be a great "bounty" to try and beat the unbeatable CPU team.
 
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suggestion: users can choose from different levels of CPU difficulty.
 
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Originally posted by eastcoastbrian
How does making CPU teams better tick people off? I understand not wanting to make CPU players on the FA market better than the human dots, but once the resets are done and half to three quarters of the league are CPU teams then that's when you adjust.

Anyone who plays any video games knows there's a final boss that is built to give you a run for your money. There's nothing more boring than 450-0. And worse than boring you can't test builds, you can't evaluate player progress and effectiveness.

Would think it would be a great "bounty" to try and beat the unbeatable CPU team.


It has happened in the past. Please read all the posts before you reply, The other thing is this isn't a video game where you play against a computer. If you want that, please stick with video games which are quite boring to me TBH!

My team played a human owned team today and won by over 100: https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/game.pl?game_id=70352 and both teams were at the same level except they had 1 CPU player and one less player. Should Bort make that game closer to? What about teams at lower levels where one team can be 10 levels above another team and you see blowout scores? Nobody wants to play a CPU team in the first place and if you do maybe you shouldn't be playing GLB which is why I preferred the WL League because there was no CPU teams and no gimme wins against human owned teams either!
Edited by Mauler on Jun 20, 2025 04:56:14
 
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Originally posted by Mauler
It has happened in the past. Please read all the posts before you reply, The other thing is this isn't a video game where you play against a computer. If you want that, please stick with video games which are quite boring to me TBH!

My team played a human owned team today and won by over 100: https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/game.pl?game_id=70352 and both teams were at the same level except they had 1 CPU player and one less player. Should Bort make that game closer to? What about teams at lower levels where one team can be 10 levels above another team and you see blowout scores? Nobody wants to play a CPU team in the first place and if you do maybe you shouldn't be playing GLB which is why I preferred the WL League because there was no CPU teams and no gimme wins against human owned teams either!


Easy answer to that: No.

No balancing mechanics should be applied to human teams. If you beat a human owned team 100-0 that means your dots are built better and you have better coordinating. Thats the reward for putting the time in.

Balancing CPU players makes games on the lead up to plateau a little more interesting, thats all. I agree with your sentiment that I WANT to play against all human owned teams, but that's not reality. So why not make the game a little bit more engaging?
 
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Originally posted by StabbyMcGinge
Easy answer to that: No.

No balancing mechanics should be applied to human teams. If you beat a human owned team 100-0 that means your dots are built better and you have better coordinating. Thats the reward for putting the time in.

Balancing CPU players makes games on the lead up to plateau a little more interesting, thats all. I agree with your sentiment that I WANT to play against all human owned teams, but that's not reality. So why not make the game a little bit more engaging?


Playing CPU teams isn't engaging to play....period and never will be no matter what you do. When teams start losing to a CPU team, as once happened, expect to lose more agents/teams and it will become more of a problem. Like I said, counterproductive which isn't a smart thing for Bort to do at this time. OK, this is my last post about such nonsense as you know my opinion on the subject.

 
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What's the point?

I agree with Mauler...ngth and I don't see how it would improve the game.
 
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