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No one ever said a skill is passive or active, I literally described how they are different and why two active won’t fire at the same time whereas an active and a passive can.

I’ll just chalk it up to either you can’t read or you’ve never played actual sports before in your life (past the kiddie age). Maybe you’ll understand it if one of your favorite agents says the same thing

Originally posted by TyDavis315
No one ever said a skill is passive or active, I literally described how they are different and why two active won’t fire at the same time whereas an active and a passive can.

I’ll just chalk it up to either you can’t read or you’ve never played actual sports before in your life (past the kiddie age). Maybe you’ll understand it if one of your favorite agents says the same thing

I imagine you'd probably argue Bort and CD about this point as well, since you literally can't look at logic laid before you.


You literally just described what I did, laid out to you what the difference is between an active and passive, and you went on a rant about how the words "Mr. Reliable" mean it isn't something you do like a stiff arm or a juke - but ignored the literal counter example of surefooted also being an active and you can't "surefooted" because the name of the skill means nothing to if it is active or passive... because again, this is a game.


You just ignore every bit of logic to stick to your original belief no matter how provably wrong it is, and act like I'm the one that's stupid for not believing your view despite me laying out every single problem with it.

Sure footed is definitely an active skill, the description describes the action perfectly. It was a self explanatory example and clearly wasn’t actually thought out.

It’s hard to explain athletics to someone who is not an athlete and only understands game concepts. When the game differs from reality you all seem to understand that perfectly (and I admit that those moments are hard for me to wrap my head around), but when there’s real aspects (from the real sport it’s based on) many of you don’t seem to want to either accept the fact or simply can’t understand.

Active and passive skills are not hard to understand nor are any mislabeled which is where the disagreement is from. 2 SAs can fire at the “same time”, but not 2 actives since the dot has to ACTIVELY use them (when conditions are met), while passive plays fire automatically as conditions are met.

Still not seeing the confusion. I’m sure even Bort and Corndog went outside (or had someone else do it) and practiced when they were making the SAs, you can’t make a football game without actual football knowledge.

The whole “whole play” / “duration of the play” argument is trite anyways since it’s not even true. The SAs do what the SAs do, chalk it up to that and leave it at that. They’re all self explanatory anyways.

It’s not like anyone on here ever agrees until Corndog decides to clear the air. Then as per GLB2 tradition, the ones vehemently against will proceed to tell him it doesn’t make sense

I answered the original question, I’m done with the run around

Of course an active and passive can fire “simultaneously”. Not really simultaneously, but an active can fire while the passive SA is still in effect. But 2 actives cannot fire simultaneously. I also don’t think 2 passives can fire simultaneously.

I still think some are mislabeled.

Originally posted by TyDavis315
The whole “whole play” / “duration of the play” argument is trite anyways since it’s not even true. The SAs do what the SAs do, chalk it up to that and leave it at that. They’re all self explanatory anyways.

What? You just contradicted the hell out of yourself. SAs do what they say but they don’t do what they say?

Ty acting like cause he played high school football he knows how programming works.


The reason people are downvoting you, is because your arguments aren't based in logic and you can't stop contradicting yourself because you don't even understand the basics of what I'm telling you - yet are trying to use false appeals to authority as though other people on the internet haven't ever heard of football or played sports... we're here playing a football simulator because we like the numbers or something.

Here you go guys. Bang-bang firing of stiff arm and sure footed. Fired at the same time? No, but it clearly shows sure-footed fire while stiff arm is still active.

https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/786876/831761

Originally posted by Detroit Leos
Here you go guys. Bang-bang firing of stiff arm and sure footed. Fired at the same time? No, but it clearly shows sure-footed fire while stiff arm is still active.

https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/786876/831761

Nice....I like sure footed on HBs.

Originally posted by Cybertron
Nice....I like sure footed on HBs.

Yeah, what is cool about that play is even after sure-footed has fired, the HB slips another tackle attempt which is likely due to stiff arm effect still occurring while sure-footed is still over his head. It is also 2 active skills.

Originally posted by Detroit Leos
Here you go guys. Bang-bang firing of stiff arm and sure footed. Fired at the same time? No, but it clearly shows sure-footed fire while stiff arm is still active.

https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/786876/831761

Stiff arm lasts 0.6 to 0.8 seconds, as in by the time the 'stiff arm' fades from over his head, it's done.

Originally posted by Raid
Stiff arm lasts 0.6 to 0.8 seconds, as in by the time the 'stiff arm' fades from over his head, it's done.

At gold stiff arm duration is 1-1.2 seconds, thus still should be active. Check the game clock for seconds if you want.

Originally posted by Detroit Leos
At gold stiff arm duration is 1-1.2 seconds, thus still should be active. Check the game clock for seconds if you want.

seems like a bug then, since CD has literally said 2 actives cannot be active at the same time.



Unless surefooted can override stiff arm.

Originally posted by Raid
seems like a bug then, since CD has literally said 2 actives cannot be active at the same time.



Unless surefooted can override stiff arm.

If anything, I would assume that sure footed is passive and mistakenly labeled as active in its description.

Originally posted by Detroit Leos
If anything, I would assume that sure footed is passive and mistakenly labeled as active in its description.

So what does "Passive" and "Active" even mean, if not that one "Activates" and one doesn't but is instead "Passive"?

If it's just to denote which ones can only activate together, why not call them Primary and secondary, or something not as succinctly descriptive as active and passive?


I mean, if you play any other game with 'active' and 'passive' skills they work exactly that way - passives just work in the background all the time and actives have to be activated and have a duration. Every other game in existence.