Warrior General Games

https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/723465/1849466

Honestly after all this time I don’t know why I expected anyone to listen. Users only care when it’s not in their favor, devs never seemed to care in the first place, and most of the user base is a bunch of causal fans that have clearly never actually played a sport.

The man mechanics are bad, which is heavily exploited in blitz heavy schemes. Even in this play you see the CBs have weird glitchy twitch mechanics (which shows up at every level so smd) and the play ball mechanics are absolute shit (imagine watching the ball come at you and you don’t even try and put a hand up). I really want to link games across all levels, but I need people to start speaking up themselves bc I’m tired of this weird user base and it’s “its him against us” mob mentality

For those who call it “bitching and moaning” how about you get your lazy ass up and actually play football. Yes I have a lot of complaints and yes I do view things from an athletes point of view instead of a gamers, but is that so wrong? The evolution of sports games today is because athletic consulting takes place.

It’s weird to me how so many people would like to ignore the small details. We spend actual money on this game, is it not fair to voice our input and frustration? Especially if “tweaks” to the game end up hurting some parts of the game?

Blitzes are in bad shape. You can spin it however you want. I don’t understand why I should just shut up and spam the same plays over and over like many users already do.

Pursuit on CBs is indeed absolutely stupid, and going by what I see in the sim it really makes no difference. We literally have so much to spend on DBs. There’s a dwindling user base so multi account star teams literally get to rule the game.

The same ones saying “oh it’s just a them problem” are the same one’s exploiting this system. It’s annoying, honestly can’t believe I got back into the game

Originally posted by TyDavis315
https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/723465/1849466

Honestly after all this time I don’t know why I expected anyone to listen. Users only care when it’s not in their favor, devs never seemed to care in the first place, and most of the user base is a bunch of causal fans that have clearly never actually played a sport.

The man mechanics are bad, which is heavily exploited in blitz heavy schemes. Even in this play you see the CBs have weird glitchy twitch mechanics (which shows up at every level so smd) and the play ball mechanics are absolute shit (imagine watching the ball come at you and you don’t even try and put a hand up).

You're putting too much faith in the visuals. The "twitchy" animation is because the sim only has a limited number of frames. If their angle is 22 degrees, but the game only has 0 and 45 degree frames, it jumps between them at the slightest turn. The difference between facing 22 degrees and 23 degrees looks like a 45 degree difference, creating "twitchy" animation. I suppose there could possibly be a larger deadzone to make it look better, though that would make the replay less accurate.

"Putting their hand up" is also a conditional thing. Just because they aren't "putting their hand up" in the replay doesn't mean they aren't actively trying to deflect the ball, it just means that the specific trigger for the animation wasn't hit. I don't know exactly what that condition is without digging through the code, but yeah.

The replay is a representation of the sim, not the other way around.

But yeah, this isn't a multi-billion dollar franchise like Madden. We don't have teams of graphic designers and animators to spend years working on getting every turn completely perfect. We have two programmers working in their basement, with both of us pulling less than minimum wage and the rest going into server costs. Some animations are going to be wonky.

Originally posted by Corndog
But yeah, this isn't a multi-billion dollar franchise like Madden. We don't have teams of graphic designers and animators to spend years working on getting every turn completely perfect. We have two programmers working in their basement, with both of us pulling less than minimum wage and the rest going into server costs. Some animations are going to be wonky.

all good with me man I appreciate the effort I love this gm

Originally posted by Corndog
You're putting too much faith in the visuals. The "twitchy" animation is because the sim only has a limited number of frames. If their angle is 22 degrees, but the game only has 0 and 45 degree frames, it jumps between them at the slightest turn. The difference between facing 22 degrees and 23 degrees looks like a 45 degree difference, creating "twitchy" animation. I suppose there could possibly be a larger deadzone to make it look better, though that would make the replay less accurate.

"Putting their hand up" is also a conditional thing. Just because they aren't "putting their hand up" in the replay doesn't mean they aren't actively trying to deflect the ball, it just means that the specific trigger for the animation wasn't hit. I don't know exactly what that condition is without digging through the code, but yeah.

The replay is a representation of the sim, not the other way around.

This was all I needed, I’m not much of a coding guy. All the extra “oh you just can’t build, look at this guy bitching again, I’m a dickhead so I like to let everyone know I’m a dickhead” stuff from people was really tiring and irritating. I’m an adult, I can’t say much for everyone but some people really lack that knowledge of respect towards others on here.

I teach internationally for a living, if I knew everything of what was running behind the scenes I wouldn’t have gripes about what I’m seeing. It’s hard to figure stuff out with the retro style so of course I’m going to automatically view it from how I saw things when I played/coach.

Thank you CD, you’re responses are the only ones that don’t make my eyes bleed.

Originally posted by TyDavis315
This was all I needed, I’m not much of a coding guy. All the extra “oh you just can’t build, look at this guy bitching again, I’m a dickhead so I like to let everyone know I’m a dickhead” stuff from people was really tiring and irritating. I’m an adult, I can’t say much for everyone but some people really lack that knowledge of respect towards others on here.

I teach internationally for a living, if I knew everything of what was running behind the scenes I wouldn’t have gripes about what I’m seeing. It’s hard to figure stuff out with the retro style so of course I’m going to automatically view it from how I saw things when I played/coach.

Thank you CD, you’re responses are the only ones that don’t make my eyes bleed.

I feel ya, when I brought up some shit about how the way zone is implemented in the game being problematic and not fun, some guy was trying to just say how much my QB sucked.


We gotta be more supportive especially here in the bugs section, it's a place to discuss not to be assholes to eachother.

Originally posted by Raid
I feel ya, when I brought up some shit about how the way zone is implemented in the game being problematic and not fun, some guy was trying to just say how much my QB sucked.


We gotta be more supportive especially here in the bugs section, it's a place to discuss not to be assholes to eachother.

LOL fair is fair for sure, however, i still think he’s more geared towards man than zone !

Originally posted by Corndog
But yeah, this isn't a multi-billion dollar franchise like Madden. We don't have teams of graphic designers and animators to spend years working on getting every turn completely perfect. We have two programmers working in their basement, with both of us pulling less than minimum wage and the rest going into server costs. Some animations are going to be wonky.

To be fair madden is garbage anymore. Just had a conversation with Jay I get more enjoyment outta this game than madden at this point.

Originally posted by Raid
I feel ya, when I brought up some shit about how the way zone is implemented in the game being problematic and not fun, some guy was trying to just say how much my QB sucked.


We gotta be more supportive especially here in the bugs section, it's a place to discuss not to be assholes to eachother.

Reminds me of the time I tried to help a totally irate guy with his QB build and explain why having technique too low makes it easier to get picked off, especially against zone which is strong vs the pass due to game logic. Apparently I was a jerk because I have a different opinion on zone (due to game balance) and and he wasn't able to take any criticism. To this day I still don't understand why his OC decided to throw so much vs a team built to defend the pass either, I would have prob taken that anger out on him instead (personally speaking).

Yes, it is a place to discuss bugs and not be raging assholes to each other.

Originally posted by Myrik_Justiciar
Reminds me of the time I tried to help a totally irate guy with his QB build and explain why having technique too low makes it easier to get picked off, especially against zone which is strong vs the pass due to game logic. Apparently I was a jerk because I have a different opinion on zone (due to game balance) and and he wasn't able to take any criticism. To this day I still don't understand why his OC decided to throw so much vs a team built to defend the pass either, I would have prob taken that anger out on him instead (personally speaking).

Yes, it is a place to discuss bugs and not be raging assholes to each other.

I was making a joke at ty, didn't mean to imply anything about our conversation. He had gotten onto a bit about my QB just sucking in the other thread, you never said my QB was bad, just that he got intercepted because of low technique... which we still don't know why you think technique makes passes harder to intercept, but okay.

Originally posted by Raid
I was making a joke at ty, didn't mean to imply anything about our conversation. He had gotten onto a bit about my QB just sucking in the other thread, you never said my QB was bad, just that he got intercepted because of low technique... which we still don't know why you think technique makes passes harder to intercept, but okay.

After this season I’ve come to realize that I don’t even care anymore, the gameplay is actually much better than when teams were putting up 70+ every game so I’ll honestly just be content with what we have.

I get too caught up in the realism of football that I tend to take it to far when comparing it to games. This is a game that you actually invest more time in as compared to madden so I have to realize that sometimes a chill pill is definitely needed.

Ok the pursuit mechanic on blitzes needs a tweak lol, inside linebackers get “stuck” and don’t recover until well after the runner is past the line of scrimmage. For run stuffers it’s not the most pleasant sight

Originally posted by TyDavis315
Ok the pursuit mechanic on blitzes needs a tweak lol, inside linebackers get “stuck” and don’t recover until well after the runner is past the line of scrimmage. For run stuffers it’s not the most pleasant sight

Link? Also, blitz awareness?

Originally posted by Corndog
Link? Also, blitz awareness?

does blitz awareness affect players not blitzing?

Originally posted by ThePh33P
does blitz awareness affect players not blitzing?

Originally posted by TyDavis315
Ok the pursuit mechanic on blitzes needs a tweak

It applies to the exact situation he described.