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My suggestion wpuld be to drop to one Pro tier, but keep player progression. Players would still progress after each game until "Vet" status happens. Boosting after each level would happen too.

The big tweek though, would be to start Rookies without a lot more points than now(maybe equal to what Journeymen start at), and lower the amount gained after each game/season. I like Osiris's idea of using a Pee Wee style system, would make it work even better.

If I’m a new player what incentive do I have for sticking around? Getting thrashed by elite veterans and never having a realistic chance to win anything doesn’t sound like much fun. Watching their HB stumble around rookie for 12 ypg they just log out and forget about the game.

They like football and they like computer games yet the game is designed exclusively for experienced veterans. It’s going to fail and keep failing if we don’t change course.

Smaller leagues and less tiers who is that for? It’s a sign they’re given up and are comfortable just letting the game die out. The game was designed for a robust user base.

Originally posted by BoDiddley
My suggestion wpuld be to drop to one Pro tier, but keep player progression. Players would still progress after each game until "Vet" status happens. Boosting after each level would happen too.

The big tweek though, would be to start Rookies without a lot more points than now(maybe equal to what Journeymen start at), and lower the amount gained after each game/season. I like Osiris's idea of using a Pee Wee style system, would make it work even better.

I thought about that one. The only thing is they would probably all have to be one and dones. Unless we just live with some players will be behind others.

Originally posted by _OSIRIS_
I thought about that one. The only thing is they would probably all have to be one and dones. Unless we just live with some players will be behind others.

Yeh, I think some players would have to be behind others until they mature to Vets. But if they start at the SP of a Journeyman, then that shouldn't be too bad. Adds a little more strategy to filling rosters. Where to set the cap would be controversial though.

Player progression is a fun part of the game and I imagine a big money maker for the game. You don't like how your player is doing in games? Spend more flex to improve him- is the thought process.

I personally hate the Rookie Tier. There isn't enough points that you start out with to build players/team that make it worth watching. I'd vote for removing the Rookie Tier as a start.

I like the idea of keeping Rookie and Soph as is, then just promote to Vet. You still get 2 tiers of protected play with progression, then a bigger Vet tier with no downward tier ladder play.

I'm not gonna lie, I LOOOOVE this idea. I just want to be able to compete against top teams, whether or not we're on the same season schedule

I agree with myrik like that idea

Originally posted by Myrik_Justiciar
I like the idea of keeping Rookie and Soph as is, then just promote to Vet. You still get 2 tiers of protected play with progression, then a bigger Vet tier with no downward tier ladder play.

That’s going to happen anyway. This is not a long term solution. It’s why we are where we are right now. It’s a band-aid on a severed limb. They made a huge mistake with the player aged format of this game. It should have been skill based.

The games #1 problem by far is the log out button. Staying the coarse with little tweaks does absolutely nothing to address this.

Hopefully they learn from this and do a GLB3 because everyone here is too entrenched to make any meaningful changes that will actually fix the game. Until then we can just continue to watch it slowly bleed out.

100% honest i would bet against a glb3 being a game at all. let alone an online one.

1 College League and 1 Professional League.
15 game seasons. No ladder games.

If you have played more than 5 seasons or you have won a championship you can buy a team in the pros. If not, you have to buy a college team. You can only have one team. If you want a team in college you can get one, but that means no pro team.

College Players

Players have 3 seasons in college (Sophomore, Junior, Senior.) During this time, players improve with sp like they do now but at a slightly slower rate. After 3 seasons they must enter the draft and get selected by a professional team. Yes, teams with more senior players will be better than players with sophomore players... but these teams would only have their seniors for 1 season, the next season they would have to get a sophomore to replace them obviously because seniors go to the draft. No Freshman class because there might be toooo much of a difference between freshmen and seniors.

Players have the option to skip college entirely and go straight to the pros. So say you want to buy a pro team and build some players for it, these players do not have to go to college.

Pros: Players
Once a player turns pro, he does not get skill points anymore (You can buy boosts though). This would look like the vet tier we have now. Pro players have 5 seasons as a pro before they are forced to retire.

Players can be traded from team to team but there are chemistry penalties for trades. Players can also refuse their contracts and move to another team at the end of the season (same as now). There would be no chemistry hit for moving between teams in the offseason. Same salary cap as usual, perhaps even lower the salary cap to prevent teams to get stacked with too many superstars. Draft picks can also be traded.

Pro League Set up:
All teams are in one league no matter how many teams there are. (If we got beyond 32 teams in one league, we'd have to adjust.)

Each team's schedule consists of 15 games against random pro opponents. You never play the same team twice in the regular season (unless there are less than 16 teams in the league.) The top 8 teams based on record enter the playoffs. First tie breaker should be head to head. Second tie breaker should be strength of schedule (by record).
Playoffs work as you would imagine. 1v8, 2v7, 3v6, 4v5.

To start the next season, there would be a draft. Based on how you finished determines where you draft. Worst team picks first, best team picks last.

If you are short players, you can make your own and skip college to get directly on your roster.

If a college player is not drafted, he has the option of retiring or redshirting and playing another season in college. Redshirting provides an option to boost your player. You may only redshirt if you are not drafted.

College League System:
All teams are in one league no matter how many teams there are.


Same as pro: Each team's schedule consists of 15 games against random pro opponents. You never play the same team twice in the regular season (unless there are less than 16 teams in the league.) The top 8 teams based on record enter the playoffs. First tie breaker should be head to head. Second tie breaker should be strength of schedule (by record).
Playoffs work as you would imagine. 1v8, 2v7, 3v6, 4v5.

College champ is crowned GLB2 national champion.
Professional Champion wins the GLB2 Bowl.

Draft:

Draft is held in the offseason at a specific time that is announced ahead of time. The amount of rounds depends on the amount of players in the player pool. Players must sign a 1 season contract with the team they are drafted by.

Miscellaneous:

Teams can choose not to renew. There players would become free agents and can sign with whoever they wish. They can also retire.


SO I JUST THREW THIS TOGETHER RIGHT NOW BUT... I would love to know if anyone likes a system like this, if anyone thinks this is trash, if there are tweaks to be made with this, problems, questions. I literally was just messing around with ideas and posted this seeing if it got any draw. It's pretty similar to real life football with some key glb2 tweaks, but I'm sure I'm skipping over some problems. Regardless, I'd love input to this idea.

It's too complicated and too many mismatches which is one of the big issues right now.

I definitely want nothing to do with a draft, players can hold off-season drafts anytime they wish. I don't want one forced upon me. I know a lot of guys want to build all their own players or just work with guys they trust. How would emptied vet teams replenish their players if they can't reset? Seems they will need feeder teams which would ruin the whole system.

What's likely going to happen is they keep reducing tiers until there are just a dozen or two diehards left. We'll end up with one or two seasons of player building. May as well be season one of vet.

Consolidating the user base is great, just not sure this works due to big level differences. Sucks to play a team with bad players and mediocre tactics and have no chance to win because you're 10 levels behind.

This in the end adds nothing to keep the novice or new players around so it's the status quo there. Mostly due to the feeder teams.

Originally posted by _OSIRIS_

I know a lot of guys want to build all their own players or just work with guys they trust. How would emptied vet teams replenish their players if they can't reset? Seems they will need feeder teams which would ruin the whole system.



But vet teams could build players whenever they wanted and skip college and go straight to the pros. This means they wouldn't need any feeder teams. If a player retires or goes inactive, you can simply make a new one and sign him on the roster as a free agent. There's also no "resetting" because all players in the pro league would be at the same level.

The draft is intended for novice players to get on a roster. They make a build that has success in college and they find a team without having to network too hard in the forums.

Cutting tiers is prob the route to be taken...I don't see them spending time and resources to drastically change the game with either of y'all's suggestions (no offense). The only changes we get now are new plays and that's it, if that's any indication.

Originally posted by Myrik_Justiciar
The only changes we get now are new plays and that's it, if that's any indication.

The only changes we get now are new man defense plays and that's it, if that's any indication.

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