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_OSIRIS_
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Originally posted by Danthesportsman

The real impediment for newbies to get into the game is that it has a steep learning curve on both the player build and game planning aspects which requires a significant investment of time to overcome and most people aren't willing to put the necessary time in to get there (not saying that is a bad thing, there has to be some depth in it after all).


True but just calling defensive plays shouldn't be some scientific equation. It should be about calling a play to counter a play. Instead it's some awful system that just doesn't work. Just calling the play you want shouldn't even be something you have to think about at all. It is literally impossible to call a play more often than not. How the hell would you even try to enplane to a new player how to call a play on defense? I guess I would try....

"Well distances and run pass mean nothing. They are just tags. You have to call the same kind of play for every formation even if the offense doesn't have to. You can't call that short blitz play against 2WR on 3rd and long because you called a medium flat play against the 2TEs. You can't do that either because you called a long outside run play against the 3WR set. Fuck it, figure it out yourself. If you are around a couple RL years from now you will figure out you can't do shit, and you can't do that either because you called piss on something totally unrelated. Well good luck!"

Well he gone.

 
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Osiris what if you tagged each play "short pass" and set short pass to 100% in tactics?
 
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Originally posted by agerm73
Osiris what if you tagged each play "short pass" and set short pass to 100% in tactics?


Because I might want to call a lean run play for 1st and 2nd down. Then I have to go 100% medium pass. Then maybe I have to go blitz/no blitz for another formation. Play priority for another. Why does calling the play have to be such a science? It should be really really simple.
 
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Originally posted by Sov.
my god do you have some obsessive complex, i am almost flattered


Not a complex, just a low tolerance for d*cks
 
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Originally posted by _OSIRIS_
Because I might want to call a lean run play for 1st and 2nd down. Then I have to go 100% medium pass. Then maybe I have to go blitz/no blitz for another formation. Play priority for another. Why does calling the play have to be such a science? It should be really really simple.


Defensive play calling sucks a bag of D%@&$. You cant call a specific run stopping play without giving up passing so your stuck calling plays that are decent versus most plays because if not you risk getting smashed if you guess wrong. Other Than 3rd or 4th and very short and other very specific situations your pretty stuck with what you have to call, and even then your at risk if a team decides to change things up.

 
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Originally posted by mcspud
All of the new players like myself, or at least the ones I've chatted with agree that the game allows the old-timers to rig the system by not making rules to stop them. These cheaters have teams in the same leagues and even in the same divisions. Owners of these teams coach or manage teams that are supposed to be their 'rivals?" That's just an insult to everyone's intelligence. There is no true open competition. Everyone sees how they rig the playoff system by throwing games when a friend's team needs a win to get in. The problem with that is that it excludes new owners from making it to higher levels of success. It's hurting the game, and it seems like the people who run the game are either oblivious to it or simply don't care.

What's the result? New players see that they don't have a fair chance to succeed, and they write-off GLB2 as a game that they might enjoy. The people who run it are too afraid to offend the old and entrenched players by trying to level the playing field, so the game never gets new investors, or at least not the number that they could be getting if not for the cozy relationship between cronies and management.

I say that it's the fault of both the old-timers and the people who operate the game that it isn't breaking through as it should. It's a great game and should do better, but until some solution to this is implemented, it will stay a wannabe third-tier game. A little backbone by management would go a long way.


I really don’t think this is an issue.....I get why you might think this but as far as I know the coaches coaching multiple teams is to help people out and to pad coaching records. My team is successful but Ive been playing forever and it took a boatload of reading old forum posts, checking open builds of guys in the Hall of fame, and also successful current builds along with asking a lot of questions. I’m still learning and have been playing since the first couple seasons. Any team can be successful with either a handful of cash to create most players on your team or getting enough guys who know how to build/ are willing to take build directions all to build your teams players.
 
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Originally posted by _OSIRIS_
True but just calling defensive plays shouldn't be some scientific equation. It should be about calling a play to counter a play. Instead it's some awful system that just doesn't work. Just calling the play you want shouldn't even be something you have to think about at all. It is literally impossible to call a play more often than not. How the hell would you even try to enplane to a new player how to call a play on defense? I guess I would try....

"Well distances and run pass mean nothing. They are just tags. You have to call the same kind of play for every formation even if the offense doesn't have to. You can't call that short blitz play against 2WR on 3rd and long because you called a medium flat play against the 2TEs. You can't do that either because you called a long outside run play against the 3WR set. Fuck it, figure it out yourself. If you are around a couple RL years from now you will figure out you can't do shit, and you can't do that either because you called piss on something totally unrelated. Well good luck!"

Well he gone.



Oh, I agree completely, the defensive play calling system is awful and really should be changed ( I've thumbs-up'd every post you've made on the subject). I just meant in general, some amount of learning curve is fine.
Edited by Danthesportsman on Aug 4, 2018 13:20:59
 
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Originally posted by Danthesportsman
Oh, I agree completely, the defensive play calling system is awful and really should be changed ( I've thumbs-up'd every post you've made on the subject). I just meant in general, some amount of learning curve is fine.


For sure. I think I learn something every game.
 
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Originally posted by mcspud
All of the new players like myself, or at least the ones I've chatted with agree that the game allows the old-timers to rig the system by not making rules to stop them. These cheaters have teams in the same leagues and even in the same divisions. Owners of these teams coach or manage teams that are supposed to be their 'rivals?" That's just an insult to everyone's intelligence. There is no true open competition. Everyone sees how they rig the playoff system by throwing games when a friend's team needs a win to get in. The problem with that is that it excludes new owners from making it to higher levels of success. It's hurting the game, and it seems like the people who run the game are either oblivious to it or simply don't care.

What's the result? New players see that they don't have a fair chance to succeed, and they write-off GLB2 as a game that they might enjoy. The people who run it are too afraid to offend the old and entrenched players by trying to level the playing field, so the game never gets new investors, or at least not the number that they could be getting if not for the cozy relationship between cronies and management.

I say that it's the fault of both the old-timers and the people who operate the game that it isn't breaking through as it should. It's a great game and should do better, but until some solution to this is implemented, it will stay a wannabe third-tier game. A little backbone by management would go a long way.


I've been here since season 1, I've never heard of this before. As everyone else mentioned, its mostly in advice situations you see repeated agents on teams, nothing more, nothing less.
 
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Originally posted by mcspud
All of the new players like myself, or at least the ones I've chatted with agree that the game allows the old-timers to rig the system by not making rules to stop them. These cheaters have teams in the same leagues and even in the same divisions. Owners of these teams coach or manage teams that are supposed to be their 'rivals?" That's just an insult to everyone's intelligence. There is no true open competition. Everyone sees how they rig the playoff system by throwing games when a friend's team needs a win to get in. The problem with that is that it excludes new owners from making it to higher levels of success. It's hurting the game, and it seems like the people who run the game are either oblivious to it or simply don't care.

What's the result? New players see that they don't have a fair chance to succeed, and they write-off GLB2 as a game that they might enjoy. The people who run it are too afraid to offend the old and entrenched players by trying to level the playing field, so the game never gets new investors, or at least not the number that they could be getting if not for the cozy relationship between cronies and management.

I say that it's the fault of both the old-timers and the people who operate the game that it isn't breaking through as it should. It's a great game and should do better, but until some solution to this is implemented, it will stay a wannabe third-tier game. A little backbone by management would go a long way.




I kinda disagree, look there isn't a whole lot of good owners, and even less coordinators, the good ones run together, it's not cheating, it's using a limited resource, you're new, I actually am just getting back into this game after a long absence, try communicating with these "old-timers" I bet they will help you, atleast some of them, they're very competitive. Like others have said, alot of the guys that are gm's are just there for a social aspect, and have a hands off approached, most owners run their own teams, there are a few coordinators that actually run someone elses team. Now if you said this 5 years ago about GLB1, I would believe it 100%, but there hasn't been any cheating at this game, it's all about builds and tactics.

Edited by cyberninja on Aug 5, 2018 06:27:07
 
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Originally posted by Lemoncow
I'd love to rip the vets, but I think you're mistaken here. Like Sov said, most of the assistant coaches are there in title only to artificially increase their coaching record.

The best advice I can give to a newbie is to get glb scout. I'm pretty sure all the good teams use it. If you have questions about how to effectively use scout or about optimal player builds, reach out to the community. There's plenty of folks willing to help out.


Yeah, the scout tool is good, but it's slowly updated.
 
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