Elusive run still without enough footwork is my guess towards some of that.
Forum > FAQ's, Player Guides and Game Help > Carry Awareness
Raid
offline
offline
Most of my HBs were 95+ carry aware, chicken is going to fall quite short of that but I've always prized the stat not only for its ability to help HBs abilities fire at the right times but also (along with footwork) to help slightly negate heavy footwork/pursuit defenders impacts. They don't just let you walk by guys but they do allow you to take advantage of guys over-pursuing ala strong shifts/cutbacks and 'ghosting' with good enough footwork.
Raid
offline
offline
Originally posted by JokersChaos
Elusive run still without enough footwork is my guess towards some of that.
Yup, footwork helps a lot. Also Elusive kinda sucks about going out of bounds in general :/
Elusive run still without enough footwork is my guess towards some of that.
Yup, footwork helps a lot. Also Elusive kinda sucks about going out of bounds in general :/
Originally posted by Galactic Empire
Those plays are probably a result of carry style. What is it set on?
Elusive back is elusive
Those plays are probably a result of carry style. What is it set on?
Elusive back is elusive
Originally posted by JokersChaos
Elusive run still without enough footwork is my guess towards some of that.
Originally posted by Raid
Yup, footwork helps a lot. Also Elusive kinda sucks about going out of bounds in general :/
Yah that must be it...he only has 35 Footwork...next time I'll add more footwork and decrease Return Awareness alot...I started this build to be used as a returner and hb at 1st to help the team i built him for...the next one should see improvements with more footwork instead of the return awareness
Elusive run still without enough footwork is my guess towards some of that.
Originally posted by Raid
Yup, footwork helps a lot. Also Elusive kinda sucks about going out of bounds in general :/
Yah that must be it...he only has 35 Footwork...next time I'll add more footwork and decrease Return Awareness alot...I started this build to be used as a returner and hb at 1st to help the team i built him for...the next one should see improvements with more footwork instead of the return awareness
Originally posted by Team Nucleus
Yah that must be it...he only has 35 Footwork...next time I'll add more footwork and decrease Return Awareness alot...I started this build to be used as a returner and hb at 1st to help the team i built him for...the next one should see improvements with more footwork instead of the return awareness
Never spend any points in Return Awareness, returner or not.
That skill is u-s-e-l-e-s-s.
Yah that must be it...he only has 35 Footwork...next time I'll add more footwork and decrease Return Awareness alot...I started this build to be used as a returner and hb at 1st to help the team i built him for...the next one should see improvements with more footwork instead of the return awareness
Never spend any points in Return Awareness, returner or not.
That skill is u-s-e-l-e-s-s.
Galactic Empire
offline
offline
Originally posted by Team Nucleus
Elusive back is elusive
That's your problem. Elusive carry style makes the HB go out of bounds.
Elusive back is elusive
That's your problem. Elusive carry style makes the HB go out of bounds.
Edited by Galactic Empire on Jul 24, 2017 22:09:40
Originally posted by DeeVee8
Never spend any points in Return Awareness, returner or not.
That skill is u-s-e-l-e-s-s.
Yes I've learned that much
Never spend any points in Return Awareness, returner or not.
That skill is u-s-e-l-e-s-s.
Yes I've learned that much
Originally posted by Galactic Empire
That's your problem. Elusive carry style makes the HB go out of bounds.
So you're saying I should take less bonus on Elusive Rushing? That makes no sense to me...they should have another attribute for players like Instincts or Vision to fix the issue of a ball carrier running out of bounds when no ones around him
That's your problem. Elusive carry style makes the HB go out of bounds.
So you're saying I should take less bonus on Elusive Rushing? That makes no sense to me...they should have another attribute for players like Instincts or Vision to fix the issue of a ball carrier running out of bounds when no ones around him
Edited by Team Nucleus on Jul 25, 2017 01:18:04
Galactic Empire
offline
offline
I would try slippery. He would only lose 2 elusive points but probably stay in bounds.
Edited by Galactic Empire on Jul 25, 2017 05:40:32
Originally posted by Galactic Empire
I would try slippery. He would only lose 2 elusive points but probably stay in bounds.
I'll test that out on the next PUP
I would try slippery. He would only lose 2 elusive points but probably stay in bounds.
I'll test that out on the next PUP
Raid
offline
offline
Originally posted by Galactic Empire
I would try slippery. He would only lose 2 elusive points but probably stay in bounds.
fyi if you are ever going to be fielding punt/kick returns FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DON'T USE SLIPPERY
otherwise it is quite decent aside from combo being better in every way in terms of pathing, slippery has one of the highest rates of skill activation of any carry style and actually works well with stiff arm.
I would try slippery. He would only lose 2 elusive points but probably stay in bounds.
fyi if you are ever going to be fielding punt/kick returns FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DON'T USE SLIPPERY
otherwise it is quite decent aside from combo being better in every way in terms of pathing, slippery has one of the highest rates of skill activation of any carry style and actually works well with stiff arm.
Edited by Raid on Jul 27, 2017 10:04:09
Edited by Raid on Jul 27, 2017 10:03:49
Raid
offline
offline
Originally posted by Team Nucleus
So you're saying I should take less bonus on Elusive Rushing? That makes no sense to me...they should have another attribute for players like Instincts or Vision to fix the issue of a ball carrier running out of bounds when no ones around him
no one wants to hear me on this one but:
Footwork is also quick deceleration.
Sometimes your guy on elusive tries to pull high footwork style moves, if you haven't got them you will fail on the sideline, 75 footwork fixes most of the sideline shenanigans and makes things smooth - and frankly for an elusive back (the only back that should be using elusive style) 75 footwork is well worth the investment.
If you are not a pure elusive you should be using slippery, or combo. If you are but are on the train of 'footwork is useless' like everyone else you will have to use slippery or combo like everyone else.
Edit: I should add that sometimes an elusive runner will choose to run out of bounds to avoid contact, I'm talking about when they run out of bounds way away from any contact, it's often times them trying to run along the sideline for maximum room and failing a footwork check basically.
You CAN use elusive with like 55-60 footwork as well, just you will only eliminate some of the sideline woes instead of most of them.
So you're saying I should take less bonus on Elusive Rushing? That makes no sense to me...they should have another attribute for players like Instincts or Vision to fix the issue of a ball carrier running out of bounds when no ones around him
no one wants to hear me on this one but:
Footwork is also quick deceleration.
Sometimes your guy on elusive tries to pull high footwork style moves, if you haven't got them you will fail on the sideline, 75 footwork fixes most of the sideline shenanigans and makes things smooth - and frankly for an elusive back (the only back that should be using elusive style) 75 footwork is well worth the investment.
If you are not a pure elusive you should be using slippery, or combo. If you are but are on the train of 'footwork is useless' like everyone else you will have to use slippery or combo like everyone else.
Edit: I should add that sometimes an elusive runner will choose to run out of bounds to avoid contact, I'm talking about when they run out of bounds way away from any contact, it's often times them trying to run along the sideline for maximum room and failing a footwork check basically.
You CAN use elusive with like 55-60 footwork as well, just you will only eliminate some of the sideline woes instead of most of them.
Edited by Raid on Jul 27, 2017 10:14:40
Edited by Raid on Jul 27, 2017 10:09:33
Raid
offline
offline
Originally posted by DeeVee8
Never spend any points in Return Awareness, returner or not.
That skill is u-s-e-l-e-s-s.
take it to 35, that reduces fumbles on returns somehow, but never - EVER over that. even just to 15 is 'okay' it's not like the bonus to not fumbling will be that important unless you are a fumble-a-holic anyhow
Never spend any points in Return Awareness, returner or not.
That skill is u-s-e-l-e-s-s.
take it to 35, that reduces fumbles on returns somehow, but never - EVER over that. even just to 15 is 'okay' it's not like the bonus to not fumbling will be that important unless you are a fumble-a-holic anyhow
Originally posted by Raid
no one wants to hear me on this one but:
Footwork is also quick deceleration.
Sometimes your guy on elusive tries to pull high footwork style moves, if you haven't got them you will fail on the sideline, 75 footwork fixes most of the sideline shenanigans and makes things smooth - and frankly for an elusive back (the only back that should be using elusive style) 75 footwork is well worth the investment.
If you are not a pure elusive you should be using slippery, or combo. If you are but are on the train of 'footwork is useless' like everyone else you will have to use slippery or combo like everyone else.
Edit: I should add that sometimes an elusive runner will choose to run out of bounds to avoid contact, I'm talking about when they run out of bounds way away from any contact, it's often times them trying to run along the sideline for maximum room and failing a footwork check basically.
You CAN use elusive with like 55-60 footwork as well, just you will only eliminate some of the sideline woes instead of most of them.
Thanks brother
no one wants to hear me on this one but:
Footwork is also quick deceleration.
Sometimes your guy on elusive tries to pull high footwork style moves, if you haven't got them you will fail on the sideline, 75 footwork fixes most of the sideline shenanigans and makes things smooth - and frankly for an elusive back (the only back that should be using elusive style) 75 footwork is well worth the investment.
If you are not a pure elusive you should be using slippery, or combo. If you are but are on the train of 'footwork is useless' like everyone else you will have to use slippery or combo like everyone else.
Edit: I should add that sometimes an elusive runner will choose to run out of bounds to avoid contact, I'm talking about when they run out of bounds way away from any contact, it's often times them trying to run along the sideline for maximum room and failing a footwork check basically.
You CAN use elusive with like 55-60 footwork as well, just you will only eliminate some of the sideline woes instead of most of them.
Thanks brother
You are not logged in. Please log in if you want to post a reply.
