Forum > Suggestions > Scrambling QBs should scramble more
aMaizenBlue
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Originally posted by Galactic Empire
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/game/348551
39 drop backs, 14 scrambles = 36%
36% seems quite good for a dual threat qb.
Cam Newton who is one of top dual threat guys only scrambled 18% last year which is half as many as your guy. Also I only counted how many times he carried the ball which means I'm also counting plays designed for him to run as scrambles in this instance so that 18% is even high.
So what are you expecting a guy to have a perfect 50-50 split?!?!
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/game/348551
39 drop backs, 14 scrambles = 36%
36% seems quite good for a dual threat qb.
Cam Newton who is one of top dual threat guys only scrambled 18% last year which is half as many as your guy. Also I only counted how many times he carried the ball which means I'm also counting plays designed for him to run as scrambles in this instance so that 18% is even high.
So what are you expecting a guy to have a perfect 50-50 split?!?!
Galactic Empire
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Say whaaaaat? How did you get that number? He dropped back to pass 39 times. Of those drop backs, he scrambled out of the pocket and ran downfield 14 times. Out of his 15 rushes, only 1 was a designed run. And that designed run was to take a knee.
Unless the word "scrambled" is used for designed runs.
Unless the word "scrambled" is used for designed runs.
Edited by Galactic Empire on Jul 27, 2016 12:27:17
Edited by Galactic Empire on Jul 27, 2016 12:26:56
Edited by Galactic Empire on Jul 27, 2016 12:23:42
Edited by Galactic Empire on Jul 27, 2016 12:23:28
Galactic Empire
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http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/game/348644
53 drop backs, 13 scrambles = 25%
These numbers are looking promising.
53 drop backs, 13 scrambles = 25%
These numbers are looking promising.
Edited by Galactic Empire on Jul 27, 2016 17:05:09
Galactic Empire
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Originally posted by aMaizenBlue
So what are you expecting a guy to have a perfect 50-50 split?!?!
No, I said ~30%.
So what are you expecting a guy to have a perfect 50-50 split?!?!
No, I said ~30%.
Originally posted by Galactic Empire
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/game/348644
53 drop backs, 53 scrambles = 25%
These numbers are looking promising.
Might wanna check that math again...
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/game/348644
53 drop backs, 53 scrambles = 25%
These numbers are looking promising.
Might wanna check that math again...
updated Galactic Empire
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No because this is a discussion about QB scrambling and evidence is being presented.
Cuivienen
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Originally posted by Galactic Empire
No because this is a discussion about QB scrambling and evidence is being presented.
Agreed. Evidence is they scramble too much and it should be turned down.
No because this is a discussion about QB scrambling and evidence is being presented.
Agreed. Evidence is they scramble too much and it should be turned down.
Galactic Empire
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Originally posted by Cuivienen
Agreed. Evidence is they scramble too much and it should be turned down.
Get outta here with that crap.
Agreed. Evidence is they scramble too much and it should be turned down.
Get outta here with that crap.
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Somebody presents evidence that in the NFL, the most prolific dual threat QB playing right now only scrambles on 18% of his drop backs.
GE wants 30%.
Also... In before "this isn't the NFL".
GE wants 30%.
Also... In before "this isn't the NFL".
Cuivienen
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Originally posted by DonaldTrump2016
Somebody presents evidence that in the NFL, the most prolific dual threat QB playing right now only scrambles on 18% of his drop backs.
GE wants 30%.
Also... In before "this isn't the NFL".
Yeah, except I would say Wilson is the most prolific dual threat QB, and Cam doesn't actually scramble that often (as was noted in the OP on Cam including designed runs which he does a lot).
According to this: https://www.profootballfocus.com/qbs-in-focus-tendencies/
Cam only scrambles 6% of the time. Pryor leads the league with 17% and Wilson, with his terrible OL, leads the good QBs with 14% (and Wilson is rolling out the most in the league, which is going to lead to a lot of scrambles).
So yeah, looks like the evidence GE posted is that scrambling is probably happening too much.
Somebody presents evidence that in the NFL, the most prolific dual threat QB playing right now only scrambles on 18% of his drop backs.
GE wants 30%.
Also... In before "this isn't the NFL".
Yeah, except I would say Wilson is the most prolific dual threat QB, and Cam doesn't actually scramble that often (as was noted in the OP on Cam including designed runs which he does a lot).
According to this: https://www.profootballfocus.com/qbs-in-focus-tendencies/
Cam only scrambles 6% of the time. Pryor leads the league with 17% and Wilson, with his terrible OL, leads the good QBs with 14% (and Wilson is rolling out the most in the league, which is going to lead to a lot of scrambles).
So yeah, looks like the evidence GE posted is that scrambling is probably happening too much.
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