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bhall43
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Originally posted by Majestic Gent
Add "redshirt freshman" leagues with players with front loaded SP who then go on to be sophomores as normal at the end of the season... Let the thumbs downs begin right about...... now!


You mean pickup players?
 
BoDiddley
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Originally posted by bhall43
How does that make the gap smaller? The older agents have the knowledge still to use the space wiser.

Or if you mean between older and younger players themselves, rookie is a class/tier of its own so they don't need to have the gap closed from them to other tiers.


Hmm, I would argue that older agents are far better dealing with 5000 SP to start, versus new agents. At 23500 SP, new agents can actual make players who can function.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
How does that make the gap smaller? The older agents have the knowledge still to use the space wiser.

Or if you mean between older and younger players themselves, rookie is a class/tier of its own so they don't need to have the gap closed from them to other tiers.


More experienced agents always will play better than new ones. Giving everyone more SP doesn't change that one way or the other.

In early rookie, it is 100% about coordinating. Builds don't matter at all. A new coordinator doesn't stand a chance as is. This won't change that one way or the other.
 
bhall43
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Originally posted by Cuivienen
More experienced agents always will play better than new ones. Giving everyone more SP doesn't change that one way or the other.

In early rookie, it is 100% about coordinating. Builds don't matter at all. A new coordinator doesn't stand a chance as is. This won't change that one way or the other.


Late rookie is still all mostly about coordinating. A new coordinator stands more a chance with no SP's spent (especially considering cpu players are actually viable) than with 25000 spent sp.
 
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0% is not more than 0%.
 
bhall43
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Originally posted by BoDiddley
Hmm, I would argue that older agents are far better dealing with 5000 SP to start, versus new agents. At 23500 SP, new agents can actual make players who can function.


So you are saying 5000 sp is meaningful to start out?
 
Majestic Gent
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Originally posted by bhall43
You mean pickup players?


no just a league with players that start off with more SP than traditional rookies, that way the users who don't want to do that can still go the traditional rookie route keeping things fair.
 
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Originally posted by Majestic Gent
no just a league with players that start off with more SP than traditional rookies, that way the users who don't want to do that can still go the traditional rookie route keeping things fair.


Why would you split the users like that within the same game? Do you like playing against CPUs?
 
Majestic Gent
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Originally posted by bhall43
Why would you split the users like that within the same game? Do you like playing against CPUs?


It was posed that it wouldn't be fair to newer players, so that's a way to make it fair. Yes both leagues would be filled with CPU teams, which was my round about point really, but it would be fair.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
So you are saying 5000 sp is meaningful to start out?


Nope. A brand new build is raw. Rookie is very random until everyone reaches level 3 or so.
 
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Originally posted by BoDiddley
Nope. A brand new build is raw. Rookie is very random until everyone reaches level 3 or so.


Right. So new people who get a team have time to acclimate themselves to the sim. Even if they don't have a full team of veteran agents.
 
Cuivienen
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That's not nearly enough time. It takes seasons, plural, no matter how many SP your dots have.
 
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Originally posted by BoDiddley
Nope. A brand new build is raw. Rookie is very random until everyone reaches level 3 or so.


Randomness favors the unskilled.
 
Cuivienen
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Originally posted by Corndog
Randomness favors the unskilled.


It doesn't favor anyone.

But rookie isn't random any way.
 
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Btw, corndog, re-read the premise in the op and see if you can answer your own question yet.
 
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