Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Xars
Build this: http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/player/84782

Sure if he doesn't want the guy to block.

Originally posted by Galactic Empire
Dominator and early bloomer is a must. Quick > speed.

I strongly suggest you build some other WR's without Early Bloomer, stash them on a CPU team, and in a few seasons you'll want to bring them over to your team when you realize Early Bloomer is a god awful idea on a WR.

I've had success with EB on a WR. It's a very powerful trait, but needs to be managed carefully.

Originally posted by Absolut Zero
I strongly suggest you build some other WR's without Early Bloomer, stash them on a CPU team, and in a few seasons you'll want to bring them over to your team when you realize Early Bloomer is a god awful idea on a WR.

I already explained why EB is the best trait on an all pupose WR.

Originally posted by Galactic Empire
I already explained why EB is the best trait on an all pupose WR.

You have a theory, but no practical experience of what a WR needs to catch a pass at the Vet or Pro level.

I'd love to know what their receiving caps are.

Would my well rounded build with 70's in all skills function well enough? Too low?

Originally posted by Absolut Zero
You have a theory, but no practical experience of what a WR needs to catch a pass at the Vet or Pro level.

I'd love to know what their receiving caps are.

All purpose also includes blocking skills, so you have to get speed/quick/blocking/catching and other skills up. That is a ton of skills to boost.

You build Defensive S* players as combos so that they never leave the field. Then you pair them with specialists. You can't control the O play calling so building a S* on D that's a specialist means that half the games/half the situations, you have a huge salary cap allocation that is useless.

For Offense, you want specialist S* players because you control the play calling. If you build a jack of all trades, in those situations when you need an Elite player to make a play - you won't have one.

I think your philosophy of a WR build is just wrong. Doing too many things means you do none of them at an expert level.

Originally posted by Xars
You build Defensive S* players as combos so that they never leave the field. Then you pair them with specialists. You can't control the O play calling so building a S* on D that's a specialist means that half the games/half the situations, you have a huge salary cap allocation that is useless.

For Offense, you want specialist S* players because you control the play calling. If you build a jack of all trades, in those situations when you need an Elite player to make a play - you won't have one.

I think your philosophy of a WR build is just wrong. Doing too many things means you do none of them at an expert level.


This, This, This, This.

Originally posted by Xars
You build Defensive S* players as combos so that they never leave the field. Then you pair them with specialists. You can't control the O play calling so building a S* on D that's a specialist means that half the games/half the situations, you have a huge salary cap allocation that is useless.

For Offense, you want specialist S* players because you control the play calling. If you build a jack of all trades, in those situations when you need an Elite player to make a play - you won't have one.

I think your philosophy of a WR build is just wrong. Doing too many things means you do none of them at an expert level.


I was replying to the OP who wanted to know how to build a blocking/receivING WR.

I think that building all purpose offensive S* players can be a huge benefit. You can run several different plays from the same formation that the defense has to account for. For instance, Megatron is a powerful WR who can block. When he is on the field, I can run to his side or pass to him and he will break a tackle. Which CB are you gonna put on him? A run stopper or coverage guy?

Originally posted by Myrik_Justiciar
This is what I've come up with so far, its comparable to my WR#2 star on KY currently:

http://www.glb2scout.com/virtualplayer.php?Code=5ec829debe54b19a5f78d9a65b900a39

and Early Bloomer version just to test GE's theory:

http://www.glb2scout.com/virtualplayer.php?Code=e71e5cd119bbc5797164fb0cd7fd94a4

Building your quickness higher than your sprinting makes no sense. If you max out on top speed of literally nothing, there is just a lot of wasted quickness involved. Not to mention Quickness is damn expensive so that is a lot of points you could have used elsewhere to make a better build.

And I agree somewhat with Xars on this seems like a real waste of a S* player. Average to below average at everything, great at nothing. That is what, 7+ million in cap space for a guy like that? Yikes.

Originally posted by Galactic Empire
I think that building all purpose offensive S* players can be a huge benefit. You can run several different plays from the same formation that the defense has to account for. For instance, Megatron is a powerful WR who can block. When he is on the field, I can run to his side or pass to him and he will break a tackle. Which CB are you gonna put on him? A run stopper or coverage guy?

You act like this is the only battle on the field. It's not.

I'll tell you exactly how I'd defend him:

In Neutral tendency situations, I'll put a Combo CB on him with 50 BRB, 90 Man Aware and 90 Cover Tech.
In Run tendency situations, I'll put a Run Stuff CB on him from a different formation with 70 BRB and Pancake him.
In Pass tendency situations, I'll put a Pure Cover Egotist CB on him from a third formation with 90 Man Aware, 90 Cover Tech, 80 Footwork, etc.

Your problem isn't the build. Your problem will be that like every human being you have a "tendency". Once that tendency gets identified, at best you'll have a marginal advantage and at worst a disadvantage versus a non-S* player.

Now compare that to my WR Belgarion. Every play he's on the field is a play where he excels at and has a substantial build advantage against any non-S*.

That's how you use $7+ million in Cap Space.

Originally posted by Xars
You build Defensive S* players as combos so that they never leave the field. Then you pair them with specialists. You can't control the O play calling so building a S* on D that's a specialist means that half the games/half the situations, you have a huge salary cap allocation that is useless.

For Offense, you want specialist S* players because you control the play calling. If you build a jack of all trades, in those situations when you need an Elite player to make a play - you won't have one.

I think your philosophy of a WR build is just wrong. Doing too many things means you do none of them at an expert level.


I disagree with your o sentiment. You build a specialist S* o player, and he is useless against teams that have sold out their entire defense against it.

A generalist S* o player can be quite good at a lot of things and therefore useful every game of the season, which is kind of important if you are gunning for #1 ladder.

Originally posted by Absolut Zero
You have a theory, but no practical experience of what a WR needs to catch a pass at the Vet or Pro level.

I'd love to know what their receiving caps are.

GE doesn't, but I have had an EB WR in Vet that did quite well. He had 55 hands and 52 rec con.

In his two Vet seasons, he caught 51.4% of targets and dropped 9.6% of targets. But I didn't build him to be a possession WR. He had very good (for a non S*) YAC figures and therefore a lot of TDs.