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Cuivienen
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Originally posted by xristos2347
So here is my question then, which S* should I create DT, C, G, or OT?


DT or G. Maybe OT. Definitely not a C.
 
Kayoh
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Originally posted by David146
For Rushing O, you don't need S* OL, so I would go DT.

for rushing O, you won't be able to move the ball in later tiers without S* OL
Edited by Kayoh on Aug 6, 2015 19:24:42
 
Mysterio
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I like FS, SS, MLB.
 
TehKyou
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Originally posted by Cuivienen
DT or G. Maybe OT. Definitely not a C.


I would do DT, then C, Then OT.

The reason for the center is with a S* you can carry just 1 without getting absolutely demolished by opposing S* DTs (or pass specialist regular DTs). This helps salary a little as opposed to Guard or Tackle where you still have to carry 3, one to start opposite the superstar, and one to back up the non S*. (unless you go double S*).

On defensive Side any 3 without salary implications would be. Run Stuff LB. SS, and CB. CB is hella expensive and the reason you probably don't see it S*'d as often. But you can do some magical things with S* on a CB build
Edited by TehKyou on Aug 7, 2015 10:06:48
 
dredgar
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SS, FS, Cb. make the most impact to me. or with teh pass offenses coming so prevelant. go with threee star cbs.
 
Cuivienen
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Originally posted by TehKyou
The reason for the center is with a S* you can carry just 1


Which is more expensive than 2 regular Cs...
 
TehKyou
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Only a little bit for a much better player. Also which is more expensive, 1 S* center with no backup or 1 S* OT and 2 non S* OTs to play the other side?
Edited by TehKyou on Aug 7, 2015 17:16:56
Edited by TehKyou on Aug 7, 2015 16:15:53
 
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Originally posted by Cuivienen
Which is more expensive than 2 regular Cs...


You can say this about every supetstar.
 
Kayoh
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The general idea is this:

Normal non-S* setup: 3 DT, 2 C, 3 G, 3 T - salary here is 11x

With S* DT: 2 DT, 1 S* DT, 2 C, 3 G, 3 T - salary here is 12.5x

With S* C: 3 DT, 1 S* C, 3 G, 3 T - salary here is 11.5x

With S* G (also applies to T): 3 DT, 2 C, 2 G, 1 S* G, 3 T - salary here is 12.5x

in general, if you're running with this setup, you'll get the most out of (while spending the least on) a S* C
 
FairForever
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Originally posted by Kayoh
The general idea is this:

Normal non-S* setup: 3 DT, 2 C, 3 G, 3 T - salary here is 11x

With S* DT: 2 DT, 1 S* DT, 2 C, 3 G, 3 T - salary here is 12.5x

With S* C: 3 DT, 1 S* C, 3 G, 3 T - salary here is 11.5x

With S* G (also applies to T): 3 DT, 2 C, 2 G, 1 S* G, 3 T - salary here is 12.5x

in general, if you're running with this setup, you'll get the most out of (while spending the least on) a S* C


I think with the S* DT you only run 1 normal DT because most teams can run quite a bit of 3-2-6 or 3-3-5 if needbe.

EDIT: The other problem with the analysis is the assumption that the team would carry 2 C. A lot of teams just carry 1 C which then changes the analysis significantly as well.
Edited by FairForever on Aug 7, 2015 18:41:40
 
Kayoh
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Originally posted by FairForever
I think with the S* DT you only run 1 normal DT because most teams can run quite a bit of 3-2-6 or 3-3-5 if needbe.

EDIT: The other problem with the analysis is the assumption that the team would carry 2 C. A lot of teams just carry 1 C which then changes the analysis significantly as well.

carrying 2 DTs would prevent you from running 5-2. I personally love 5-2 so I would never run with only 2 DTs. Plus then you wouldn't be able to get away with running even a 4-man front for an entire game. You'd be forced to go 3-4 against pure running teams and that's got bad news bears written all over it. Well, unless you're Xars.
 
TehKyou
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Not necessarily, a DE can take the other DT spot in a 5-2. Usually a better Spin Cycler than a DT anyway. Even if you stuck with 4man fronts against all run teams, it doesn't hurt you too bad. DTs really don't lose that much energy vs. run teams

Alot of teams do carry just 1 non S* C. Whales are about to do that themselves. But then you gotta move the backup guard to also back up the Center (at least in my opinion you should). I consider it a net loss at the position even though we are strengthening elsewhere.
Edited by TehKyou on Aug 7, 2015 19:36:42
Edited by TehKyou on Aug 7, 2015 19:34:35
 
Kayoh
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Originally posted by TehKyou
Not necessarily, a DE can take the other DT spot in a 5-2. Usually a better Spin Cycler than a DT anyway. Even if you stuck with 4man fronts against all run teams, it doesn't hurt you too bad. DTs really don't lose that much energy vs. run teams

Alot of teams do carry just 1 non S* C. Whales are about to do that themselves. But then you gotta move the backup guard to also back up the Center (at least in my opinion you should). I consider it a net loss at the position even though we are strengthening elsewhere.

you don't need a backup for a S* C. Check out Hub. Stone Thomas has nearly 70 conditioning, 60 toughness, over 70 snap reaction/intim/bal, and 95 run block tech/80 power, plus over 50 in awr and consistency.
 
TehKyou
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Was talking about a non S* Center, if I had only 1 non S* Center then I would back it up with a guard
 
Kayoh
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Originally posted by TehKyou
Was talking about a non S* Center, if I had only 1 non S* Center then I would back it up with a guard

what's the point? You'd be stretching your interior OL so thin
 
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