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Thats my point though, we only had 2 s*s on offense and put up slightly worse numbers. being we didnt have a s* WR last year. The point is if you moved your s* QB salary to another WR, the line would probably be just as good. Had we had a s* WR last year our numbers would probably have been better than yours or dead on the same.

I think the out come here is if you dont get a s* QB you can easily make up for it with s*S in the catching positions, where as if you get a s* QB they can make up for not having as many s* pass catchers.

Originally posted by mutleyddmc DTD
Thats my point though, we only had 2 s*s on offense and put up slightly worse numbers. being we didnt have a s* WR last year. The point is if you moved your s* QB salary to another WR, the line would probably be just as good. Had we had a s* WR last year our numbers would probably have been better than yours or dead on the same.

I think the out come here is if you dont get a s* QB you can easily make up for it with s*S in the catching positions, where as if you get a s* QB they can make up for not having as many s* pass catchers.

We didnt get our s* wr till season 10 so the only difference between our offenses was the s* qb. Also it may seem like its not much but if we use those ypa over 3000 attempts, which is about what youd expect in a season give or take, (1500 pass and run split) southside out gains you 750 yards. Thats basically two extra games worth of yards, thats a pretty large difference. Also an extra s* wr would be an extreme waste as our wr 2 didnt eclipse 800 yards and wr 3 didnt eclipse 500. You could make an arguement for another s* te maybe but i dont feel his extra cap would be worth it considering how well our non s* Erica durance is doing.

Originally posted by USC_Trojans
We didnt get our s* wr till season 10 so the only difference between our offenses was the s* qb. Also it may seem like its not much but if we use those ypa over 3000 attempts, which is about what youd expect in a season give or take, (1500 pass and run split) southside out gains you 750 yards. Thats basically two extra games worth of yards, thats a pretty large difference. Also an extra s* wr would be an extreme waste as our wr 2 didnt eclipse 800 yards and wr 3 didnt eclipse 500. You could make an arguement for another s* te maybe but i dont feel his extra cap would be worth it considering how well our non s* Erica durance is doing.

your using hypothetical yards on a season when theres actual yards there............

My point still stands, you said a non s* wouldnt touch Pas numbers, well 750 yards of extra offense for a non s* QB (based on the logic above), is touching it. However you could then spend the salary else where, whether that be on a s* WR. or on defense to get the ball back more........... Which could be the reason we got more total yards and TDs as our defense allowed us too........ Again theres no need for hypothetical what yards you would have because there are actual yards there to compare

Also you say your WR2 didnt eclipse 800 yards, does that not say that maybe any extra s* would be needed?

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Also as i say, you can use the extra salary to make up for deficiencies that a non s* has, or you can have a s* QB to make up for the deficiencies your catchers will have. Either way, if you've got good builds and coaching, you are probably going to do well whatever you decide

I should phrase it better, my scheme doesnt use wr 2 as a threat a s* there would be a waste. Im saying on even amount of plays southside is the superior team. Also 750 yards from a sophmore is pretty big considering the sp gap is still pretty close. The real gap comes in that 4 th season where you can see pa's numbers skyrocketed. Just look at the hall of fame last season, the first non s* qb is fsm's at 16, pa was 13th as a pro qb. To me that speaks volumes.

That 4th season being season 10. When you acquired the s* WR??

This 750 is hypothetical. As i said theres real stats there saying that we as an offense got more yards. Doesnt matter about YPA, as that just means your offense touched it less, maybe because your extra salary QB stopped you having a defense to get you the ball back more..........

Originally posted by Jagat0r
I would choose the HB given the option, but I would trade both for a S* pass catcher or 2.

I wonder why.....

From my observations a S* HB would be a better choice if you have to choose between the two. That way your line doesn't have to always open up holes for your HB to make a play and they could focus more on pass blocking. Going to hurt in rookie and sophomore though while your HB gets up to speed.

Is it even possible to build a balanced lineman after the OL changes?

Originally posted by Majestic Gent
From my observations a S* HB would be a better choice if you have to choose between the two. That way your line doesn't have to always open up holes for your HB to make a play and they could focus more on pass blocking. Going to hurt in rookie and sophomore though while your HB gets up to speed.

Is it even possible to build a balanced lineman after the OL changes?

Easier to build a balanced lineman I think compared to before. Just take early bloomer and get both your pass and run blocking to a respectable level. Easier because relatively speaking the 1-D linemen won't be as strong with the huge SP cost increases at top levels.

I'd say it depends on how "balanced" you really want to be. When MEM resets in a few seasons we'll end up having both S* QB and HB as well as S* TE, 2x S* WR, S* blitzing LB, and S* SS. All those super stars are too expensive to hold a deep team in rookie so we have to choose between the QB and HB until we get to journeyman where we can afford both while also having the QB on high contract. Due to the current state of rookie/sophomore running Id be more inclined to go with the QB for now since the running game won't shape up until late seasoned at least.

Originally posted by jfbueno
I'd say it depends on how "balanced" you really want to be. When MEM resets in a few seasons we'll end up having both S* QB and HB as well as S* TE, 2x S* WR, S* blitzing LB, and S* SS. All those super stars are too expensive to hold a deep team in rookie so we have to choose between the QB and HB until we get to journeyman where we can afford both while also having the QB on high contract. Due to the current state of rookie/sophomore running Id be more inclined to go with the QB for now since the running game won't shape up until late seasoned at least.

Sounds similar to what SACKS did this past season (except one less WR, one more LB). Should be able to afford all 7 if you plan out salaries very carefully.

Originally posted by mutleyddmc DTD
That 4th season being season 10. When you acquired the s* WR??

This 750 is hypothetical. As i said theres real stats there saying that we as an offense got more yards. Doesnt matter about YPA, as that just means your offense touched it less, maybe because your extra salary QB stopped you having a defense to get you the ball back more..........



Yep same season, though production was up across the board espically tightend and qb. Even our hb saw a jump. Had nothing to do with defense, you touched it more cause you passed 12% more of your touches than we did. With the ball in the air that many more times you used less clock per drive than we did so its merely a matter of we rushed more which meant more time per drive and less plays per game.

When I reset I'll be running like 65/35 so I will go with a S* HB. Also, rolling with a S* FS, SS, LB, DT and Center. Probably axing the Dime CB blitz...those CBs are too expensive. I found the 4-3 under cover works for blitzes and 3-2-6 Cover 4 is a solid pass defense.

I don't necessarily understand the S* C. I get G or T so you have enough SP to focus on run awareness and lead awareness but C isn't hard to build without any extra points.

Originally posted by jfbueno
I'd say it depends on how "balanced" you really want to be. When MEM resets in a few seasons we'll end up having both S* QB and HB as well as S* TE, 2x S* WR, S* blitzing LB, and S* SS. All those super stars are too expensive to hold a deep team in rookie so we have to choose between the QB and HB until we get to journeyman where we can afford both while also having the QB on high contract. Due to the current state of rookie/sophomore running Id be more inclined to go with the QB for now since the running game won't shape up until late seasoned at least.

yer if the game stays the way it is, probably best to start with the QB and add the HB when he is able to do what he is built to do

Originally posted by AirMcMVP
I don't necessarily understand the S* C. I get G or T so you have enough SP to focus on run awareness and lead awareness but C isn't hard to build without any extra points.

So I only need 1. Plus he is key for inside runs which I run a lot.