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Xars
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I like the changes above.

But I still believe that better Pass Blitzes from Man formations need to exist that are Medium and Long Distance tagged. (or change some of the existing Short tags to Med/Long). Do we need 39 Short Blitzes when there are only 5 Medium?

I'd like to see Bort/Cdog actually DC a few hundred games and then tell me I'm wrong. If you want teams to run varied Defensive schemes, they have to be able to actually do it.

On 3rd and 15, why are my choices a Short Blitz or a Med/Long Cover heavy play from a Man based scheme?

Whereas it would be so much easier for DCs to just go 100 Medium 50 Blitz and then have 1, 2 or 3 Medium Man coverage plays with 1, 2 or 3 Medium Man Blitzes.

And get Inside/Outside Run out of the distance setting and drop them into direction.

Distance>Direction>Man/Zone>Blitz is ideal.


 
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Originally posted by peeti
Mhhhh.

Kudos to the Off Tackle change. Much appreciated and needed.

But instead of fixing blocking logic to help the run, they again improved run defense logic to stop outside runs even more. Dont get it, but it is what it is I guess



Keep in mind this also hurts defenses as those des sliding over leave huge gaps to run slams through. Double edged sword.
 
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Originally posted by USC_Trojans
Woot i can finally use offtackles on GA.


 
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Originally posted by mutleyddmc DTD
The off tackle change is good!!!

The leagacy ranking is pointless. However I guess it keeps a few people happy


The big question is, which ones provide a trophy?
 
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Originally posted by peeti
Mhhhh.

Kudos to the Off Tackle change. Much appreciated and needed.

But instead of fixing blocking logic to help the run, they again improved run defense logic to stop outside runs even more. Dont get it, but it is what it is I guess



Huh? I didn't see any change to run defense in the change log.
 
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Originally posted by Galactic Empire
Huh? I didn't see any change to run defense in the change log.


The DE contains, which are not a big staple of team's playbooks right now. I do use them very occasionally against pure run teams - but it already leaves the inside run exposed - based on the wording in the changelog one assumes the inside runs will be even more effective, which is a trade-off for presumably stronger defense against teams that like to pitch.
 
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Actually that play has been used VERY frequently already. Will be even more now.

And yes...it will now only be stronger vs the outside runs. If it leaves the inside more open? nah, only a bit. In plays like these the inside run is still stopped pretty good (not very good) due to the safeties. Similar to Edge 2 Buzz and stuff.

Dont get me wrong...Making the defenders do what they actually SHOULD do is not a buff, its just a fix. A good one btw.
I just dont get why they cant fix logic and movements issues for run play designs and more important blocking logic as well.
 
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Originally posted by peeti
Actually that play has been used VERY frequently already. Will be even more now.

And yes...it will now only be stronger vs the outside runs. If it leaves the inside more open? nah, only a bit. In plays like these the inside run is still stopped pretty good (not very good) due to the safeties. Similar to Edge 2 Buzz and stuff.

Dont get me wrong...Making the defenders do what they actually SHOULD do is not a buff, its just a fix. A good one btw.
I just dont get why they cant fix logic and movements issues for run play designs and more important blocking logic as well.


Very frequently? Teams ran the Flats plays against LIK approximately 30 times last season... under 2% of the time. And then of those 30 times, only 6 of them went for less than 5 yards. More of the runs went for 20+ yards than for less than 5 yards when the play was run vs LIK.

I guess it will be stronger now... but considering more people run DE Flats to stop TE Post than to stop running plays (at least at lower tiers), that should probably say something.
 
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Woh, the off tackle change happened. That's probably the death of middle overload and inside run defenses.

Should be an interesting experiment.
 
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Originally posted by Absolut Zero
Woh, the off tackle change happened. That's probably the death of middle overload and inside run defenses.

Should be an interesting experiment.


It's a much bigger buff than some people are giving it credit for. It's a needed buff too. Can essentially run three different play calls - one for inside runs, one for outside runs, one for off-tackles (use one of the inside options)
 
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Originally posted by Absolut Zero
Woh, the off tackle change happened. That's probably the death of middle overload and inside run defenses.

Should be an interesting experiment.


Good.
 
peeti
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I dont really know what has been run vs LIK. Vs erkner I saw it relatively often. I know it was easy to beat. Did I ever say sth different anywhere?!

IT will hopefully be much stronger vs the outside run tho
 
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about time for the offtackle runs in inside formation

the smother plays working now is a bit scary, esp for the 2TE formations, might be the end of TE crosses spam lol. should even the playing field alot between pure passing/pure running teams after last seasons changes
 
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Legacy rankings looked borked af unless I guess it starts recording from this season on.

And guess there is an ELO reset every season now?
Edited by o The Boss x on Jul 3, 2015 10:03:16
 
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Originally posted by o The Boss x
Legacy rankings looked borked af unless I guess it starts recording from this season on.

And guess there is an ELO reset every season now?


There aren't even any teams in sophomore and seasoned dynasty rankings.
 
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