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let me guess...your Team will be a pass heavy team in S10?

Anyway, nice write-up. Actually I have some questions since I never scrim anyone I dont really try out much tactic options^^


Originally posted by Rob.

Set very long at 14 yards, and in my 3rd and very long settings I will put 100 in inside run, 100 in zone and 100 in Blitz. This will result in engage 8 getting called against all formations that engage 8 is an option and will result in a sack 90% of the time.


This will prolly lead to calling MO against all opponents where we only have MO Inside run defense?

What about those GL settings? Are the really only used in fron of our GL? Or any very short yardage situations? Or when they use GL formation?
Have always been curious.

Lets take your example:

Originally posted by Rob.

Here's my plays:

Goal Line:
5-2 Cat Blitz Roll (Short pass/run Zone Blitz)
Dime 3-2-6 Edge 2 Buzz (Short pass/run Zone Blitz)


What if opponents call GL QB Rollout on 2nd and 5 on the 50 yard line?
We have normal 2nd and medium tactics set to 100% Medium, the rest 0%. But we also have the GL tactics set to 100% Short, rest 0%.

What will get called?

Same for

Originally posted by Rob.

Here's my plays:

Goal Line:
5-2 Cat Blitz Roll (Short pass/run Zone Blitz)
4-3 Middle Overload.


What if opponents call GL QB Rollout on 2nd and 5 on the 50 yard line?
We have normal 2nd and medium tactics set to 100% Short, 100% Inside Blitz and the rest 0%. But we also have the GL tactics set to 100% Short, rest 0%.

What will get called?

Thanks in advance


Greetz

Originally posted by peeti
This will prolly lead to calling MO against all opponents where we only have MO Inside run defense?

Yes, if you don't have engage 8 in there, MO is the next play it would pick. So if you are playing against a team that runs outside in those situations, I wouldn't even try that tactic.

Originally posted by peeti
What about those GL settings? Are the really only used in fron of our GL? Or any very short yardage situations? Or when they use GL formation?

The goal line settings only apply to short yardage against the goal line formation.

Originally posted by peeti
What if opponents call GL QB Rollout on 2nd and 5 on the 50 yard line?
We have normal 2nd and medium tactics set to 100% Medium, the rest 0%. But we also have the GL tactics set to 100% Short, rest 0%

I just noticed an error in that post. I accidentally said Edge 2 buzz was a short play. Fixed that. Anyways, in the situation outlined, Edge 2 Buzz will get called since it is medium.



Originally posted by peeti
What if opponents call GL QB Rollout on 2nd and 5 on the 50 yard line?
We have normal 2nd and medium tactics set to 100% Short, 100% Inside Blitz and the rest 0%. But we also have the GL tactics set to 100% Short, rest 0%.

What will get called?


In this situation it will pull from your 2nd down tactics. Not sure I am following 100% short and 100% inside blitz though. If you wanted 5-2 cat blitz roll to be called, just put 100 in the short box and leave everything else at zero. If you want MO, just put 100 in the inside run box.

Originally posted by Rob.
In this situation it will pull from your 2nd down tactics. Not sure I am following 100% short and 100% inside blitz though. If you wanted 5-2 cat blitz roll to be called, just put 100 in the short box and leave everything else at zero. If you want MO, just put 100 in the inside run box.



Inside Run I meant, sorry.


Mhhh...So if opponents call GL QB Rollout on 3nd and 5 on the 50 yard line (We have normal 3rd and very short tactics set to 100% Short, 100% Inside Blitz and the rest 0%, GL tactics set to 100% Short, rest 0%) we wouldnt see MO fired, right?

Also, what means "short GL"? Our short distance?

Originally posted by peeti
Inside Run I meant, sorry.


Mhhh...So if opponents call GL QB Rollout on 3nd and 5 on the 50 yard line (We have normal 3rd and very short tactics set to 100% Short, 100% Inside Blitz and the rest 0%, GL tactics set to 100% Short, rest 0%) we wouldnt see MO fired, right?

Also, what means "short GL"? Our short distance?

Parab00n did the testing here: http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum/thread/5224667?page=3
He said it was pulling from his goal line tactics in short and very short situations, based on the numbers he used.

They should just remove the tactic

I have not tried DCing here on GLB II yet, although i hope to one day (even though it does look a little complicated compared to GLB I), but i just wondered if anyone ran a D with no blitzes or is blitzing a necessity?

Originally posted by drewd21
I have not tried DCing here on GLB II yet, although i hope to one day (even though it does look a little complicated compared to GLB I), but i just wondered if anyone ran a D with no blitzes or is blitzing a necessity?

Yup, a lot of teams do one or the other. Some do both. My team is all about blitzing. Whereas some others in my tier (such as Logzilla, Kiwi's, Default) rarely blitz. I'd argue Ground Assault blitzes every single snap, but some think it only counts if a LB is involved.

It's all about how you build your defense. If you have the d-line that can get serious pressure on their own, then throwing more into coverage is a good idea. If you've got a d-line that's built a little more towards the run, then getting pressure on the QB would require more blitzing.

Originally posted by peeti
They should just remove the tactic

Completely disagree, if they did you could possibly get stuck in an Inside Rush defense in the goalline set when your opponent likes to either pound it inside from the 2WR set or Pitch it from teh Goalline. Now that we know how it works it gives DCs another tool to work with.

Originally posted by Parab00n
Completely disagree, if they did you could possibly get stuck in an Inside Rush defense in the goalline set when your opponent likes to either pound it inside from the 2WR set or Pitch it from teh Goalline. Now that we know how it works it gives DCs another tool to work with.

So what is it then? our chosen very short or short settings outta GL?

Plays:

Short Outside
Short Outside
Medium Outside
Short Inside

Tactics: 50% Long / 50% Outside

This should always use my outside tactics if I don't have a Long play right? Somehow the inside call keeps getting called for some reason.

Seriously sick and tired of the way the tactics work.

I'm a couple tequila + radlers in here, but are any of the plays pass/run? That seems to be a big mistake I see people getting stuck on.

The tactics are coded to choose the pure inside rush defense/outside rush defense stuff FIRST before even taking a look at pass/run blend plays when looking in that direction.

So your long is for long passes. Your outside is for outside rush defense. The blend stuff doesn't qualify first, it jumps in there 2nd.

Also, it doesn't work the way you think it does. It's a coin flip between long and rush outside. If the coin lands on long, it doesn't jump back to rush outside. It's going to start the drill down process where it then jumps to look for a pass defense and so forth.

In other words and the form of really bad if/then statements:

if roll lands on long pass
then look for long pass

if no long pass in playbook
then look for long pass/run in playbook

if no long pass/run in playbook
then look for pass defense in playbook

and on and on

And the drilldown of criteria in the case of no matches also includes # of WRs, despite what some will tell you.

Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
And the drilldown of criteria in the case of no matches also includes # of WRs, despite what some will tell you.

Already been proven to be 100% false, the # of WRs was removed around Season 3.