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jamz
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Mo jamz, mo problems.
 
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Originally posted by Parab00n
You're 1300 yards and 46 points below the #1 offensive team in your league must less the game.


Considering they also avg 82.4 plays a game to our roughly 62 plays per game its silly to compare what we really need is yards per play and points per play to compare teams.
 
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Originally posted by USC_Trojans
Considering they also avg 82.4 plays a game to our roughly 62 plays per game its silly to compare what we really need is yards per play and points per play to compare teams.


Look, these are fairly simple metrics, but they're still interesting and the OP still contributes something to the community. Why don't those of you who are unhappy with the stats listed make your own post, with stats you find interesting?
 
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Originally posted by McGruffHawk
And how many Pro teams have those teams played?

Milwaukee has played one pro team (2 tiers higher) and 3 journeyman teams
Default has played zero pro teams and 5 journeyman
Ground Assault has played three pro teams and 2 journeyman

You don't think those extra games against teams with twice as many skill points make a difference in stats?


Here's what you do: Compile a set of stats that suits you, weight them fairly by opponent strength, and make your own post.
 
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Originally posted by USC_Trojans
Considering they also avg 82.4 plays a game to our roughly 62 plays per game its silly to compare what we really need is yards per play and points per play to compare teams.


Any other stats you want to cherry pick?
 
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Originally posted by USC_Trojans
Considering they also avg 82.4 plays a game to our roughly 62 plays per game its silly to compare what we really need is yards per play and points per play to compare teams.


Lets look at it as well as you compare 100% pass vs 100% rush.

Who do you think has more big play potential? Pass > 15 yards versus Run > 10 Yards.

I would suspect a run team has more big play potential, thus leading to the argument that the run game nets many many more big plays than a passing game. It's actually funny the pass game is really intended to get the home runs while the run game is supposed to be the constant gainer, but in GLB2 its quite the opposite. Pass teams tend to be more of the nickle and dimers and run game is the homerun hitters.
 
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Default had 1269 pass attempts with 224 big gains = 17.65% chance
Ground Assault had 1046 rush attempts with 184 big gains = 17.6% chance

Ok so... my argument is flawed with the metrics I am using, though is all subjective what a big gain is for a pass versus a run. I am using 15 pass / 10 rush. Are my assumptions right there?
 
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Originally posted by Stobie
Default had 1269 pass attempts with 224 big gains = 17.65% chance
Ground Assault had 1046 rush attempts with 184 big gains = 17.6% chance

Ok so... my argument is flawed with the metrics I am using, though is all subjective what a big gain is for a pass versus a run. I am using 15 pass / 10 rush. Are my assumptions right there?


I wouldn't consider 15/10 big plays. I would consider 30+ big plays. Those will show you the real numbers.
 
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Originally posted by Adderfist
I wouldn't consider 15/10 big plays. I would consider 30+ big plays. Those will show you the real numbers.


hmmm let me take a look.

Default had 11 plays +30 yards
GA had 30 plays +30 yards

Deafult had 57 plays +20 yards
GA had 55 plays +20 yards
Edited by Stobie on Jan 1, 2015 09:01:37
 
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Originally posted by Stobie
I am using 15 pass / 10 rush. Are my assumptions right there?


Just my opinion: 2x a first down, so 20 yards (for either pass or run)... which is a little less than Adderfist suggested.
Edited by Badhands on Jan 1, 2015 08:59:52
 
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Originally posted by Badhands
Just my opinion: 2x a first down, so 20 yards (for either pass or run)... which is a little less than Adderfist suggested.


good thing I assumed to do 20 as well
 
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Went and did S7 for Milwaukee Beers and LZ Boys. We're in the same League and since we were both near the top of the Ladder, our Ladder opponents over the season should have been fairly comparable.

Here's the number of 50+ yard plays
Beers: 75
LZ Boys: 1

Here's the number of 40+ yard plays
Beers: 103
LZ Boys: 3

Here's the number of 30+ yard plays
Beers: 161
LZ Boys: 32

Here's the number of 20+ yard plays
Beers: 302
LZ Boys: 147


Total Plays
Beers: 2102
LZ Boys: 2344
 
Stobie
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It all depends on how you look at it. For instance. Same result sets,

Default has 522 first downs
GA has 246 first downs

Another interesting stat that I believe throws the results off a bit.

Inside rushing for GA

Attempts 474, First Downs 79, Big Gains +10 22, TFL 6

Outside Rushing for GA

Attempts 572, First Downs 167, Big Gains +10 162, TFL 169
Edited by Stobie on Jan 1, 2015 09:59:19
 
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I say 30, because passing offenses can throw the ball 20 yards, then the WR gets tackled. Run offenses can run a sweep play and run the length of the field.

In general run O's require less to do well.
 
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Originally posted by Stobie
It all depends on how you look at it. For instance. Same result sets,

Default has 522 first downs
GA has 246 first downs

Another interesting stat that I believe throws the results off a bit.

Inside rushing for GA

Attempts 474, First Downs 79, Big Gains +10 22, TFL 6

Outside Rushing for GA

Attempts 572, First Downs 167, Big Gains +10 162, TFL 169


what are the numbers on those sets for Hub?
 
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