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Originally posted by mrm708
footwork is way too low. when they break the block i believe they use footwork to sidestep around the blocker

Unless you pancake the blocker.

In essence, BRB is the Defensive counter to Run Block Technique for OL/TE/WRs.

It's how you Pancake them instead of the other way around. (Hold Ground and Balance playing a factor as well.)

i think hold ground plays a bigger factor in rcakes than BRB.

Just pulling some highlights out of my ass:


http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/111087/2662975?player_id=61670
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/111087/2663852?player_id=61670
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/99085/2541637?player_id=61670 BRB with 30 diving is a nice combo.
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/99085/2542516?player_id=61670
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/99085/2541716?player_id=68302
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/99085/2542564?player_id=68302

Originally posted by mrm708
i think hold ground plays a bigger factor in rcakes than BRB.

One is the Technique roll; one is the Power roll. I'm pretty sure Tech goes first so if you're a Power build, you need high Balance to stay up and make it to the Power roll.

So either can work or a combination of both.

Originally posted by kirincnj
In what defense is BRB 'one of the most overrated skills'?



When your D-Line eats up blockers and your LBs fly to the ball carrier, and never engage in blocking. None of my D Line will ever invest in BRB. They will all, except for my pass rushing DE, max out Hold Ground, Intimidation, Pass Rush Power, and Balance, including hitting 95+ in Hold Ground, Intimidation and Pass Rush Power.

Although my big, strong Stormtrooper CBs will have high BRB.

Originally posted by mrm708
i think hold ground plays a bigger factor in rcakes than BRB.

You are correct. Hold Ground = pancakes. Balance = not getting pancaked.

Originally posted by Galactic Empire
You are correct. Hold Ground = pancakes. Balance = not getting pancaked.

That's not entirely true. I dropped my cakes dramatically using hold ground and pass rush power only. I'm sure balance plays a good part in there but it's not specifically how you are putting it.

Originally posted by bhall43
That's not entirely true. I dropped my cakes dramatically using hold ground and pass rush power only. I'm sure balance plays a good part in there but it's not specifically how you are putting it.

High Balance helps when you are under-invested in Run or Pass.

So when you went high Hold Ground (Run Power) and high Pass Rush Power, you negated losing the Tech rolls by winning the Power ones. Thus, Balance probably didn't come into play.

A lot of D Linemen seem to first build Pass or Run (and not both simultaneously), so they need Balance to help them not get Pancaked when going up against their weak skills.

It's probably a Tech - Power - Balance check and not Tech - Balance - Power like I guessed above, but who knows.

yea there is definitely more to cakes/rcakes than just winning the power roll. Somehow my LB (who has 0 points invested in HG or PRP, and minimal points in balance) still has a 2:1 rcake:caked ratio in seasoned. Not sure if this is just a consequence of people not caring about their ST depth charts or something, but his BRB and PRT are in the low 30s too so i dont really know how he does it. balance is only 35.

Originally posted by mrm708
yea there is definitely more to cakes/rcakes than just winning the power roll. Somehow my LB (who has 0 points invested in HG or PRP, and minimal points in balance) still has a 2:1 rcake:caked ratio in seasoned. Not sure if this is just a consequence of people not caring about their ST depth charts or something, but his BRB and PRT are in the low 30s too so i dont really know how he does it. balance is only 35.

In GLB 1, there were other factors that gave one side the edge at the very start of a blocking interaction. Momentum played a part. Given how fast your LB is, it's possible he's just entering more blocks with a head start over the blocker due to entering it with extra momentum.

I don't know how similar GLB 2 is to GLB 1, or if GLB 1 has changed so much since last I played it (way back when). So momentum might not be that much of a thing anymore.

Originally posted by Galactic Empire
When your D-Line eats up blockers and your LBs fly to the ball carrier, and never engage in blocking. None of my D Line will ever invest in BRB. They will all, except for my pass rushing DE, max out Hold Ground, Intimidation, Pass Rush Power, and Balance, including hitting 95+ in Hold Ground, Intimidation and Pass Rush Power.

Although my big, strong Stormtrooper CBs will have high BRB.

Good luck with that.

ya that is a pretty piss poor plan which is going to have teams pounding the rock down his throat all day long. lol

Originally posted by bhall43
ya that is a pretty piss poor plan which is going to have teams pounding the rock down his throat all day long. lol

Currently #1 in Rookie rush defense...

Originally posted by Galactic Empire
Currently #1 in Rookie rush defense...

builds hardly matter in rookie. guys with no PRT investment can get 20+ sacks. if none of your DL can break a run block teams will be able to get 5+ yards every run up the middle unless you stack the box which will expose you badly to outside runs or passes. Power DTs are good but you will regret not having at least one DT that can break a run block.

Originally posted by mrm708
builds hardly matter in rookie. guys with no PRT investment can get 20+ sacks. if none of your DL can break a run block teams will be able to get 5+ yards every run up the middle unless you stack the box which will expose you badly to outside runs or passes. Power DTs are good but you will regret not having at least one DT that can break a run block.

Guess we will find out. But with 3 DL on the field with 95+ Hold Ground and Intim, and max balance, they will get several rev pancakes and demoralize the O-Line.