Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Time Trial
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/player/86612

82 Pass Rush Power. Guess how many of those revcakes are against passes?

You don't need to get to the QB every time... he's got a ton of intimidation and he's going to start working on pass rush deflection skill soon. He'll have the * level bonus today too. Though I really want to get his next AP so that I can silver Beat Down.

If they pass the ball against my team enough times, their o-line gets to look like Swiss cheese by the end of the game.

This is going to work fabulously against runblock O-lines the dozen or fewer time the throw the ball. It's not going to do anything against a pure pass blocking O-line. I take most of my lineman revcakes on special teams against bigtime run defender builds.

Originally posted by Time Trial
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/player/86612

82 Pass Rush Power. Guess how many of those revcakes are against passes?

You don't need to get to the QB every time... he's got a ton of intimidation and he's going to start working on pass rush deflection skill soon. He'll have the * level bonus today too. Though I really want to get his next AP so that I can silver Beat Down.

If they pass the ball against my team enough times, their o-line gets to look like Swiss cheese by the end of the game.

Good example of what I'm talking about.

You've invested heavily for a sophomore.

In 8 Ladder games this season (in theory should be competitive): 2 half sacks / 5 hurries / 4 tackles

Sure - you've got 34 rev cakes -- which is a good morale attack - but they didn't result in very much in terms of stats

I understand what people are saying: that a pass rush is sometimes effective without registering a hurry or sack or tackle - but I'm not entirely sold on it -- at least not sold that a pass rushing DE who invests heavy, heavy in pass rushing is 'getting his moneys worth'

I would assume it is very unlikely that many of the O linemen you are facing have anything near 80 in pass block power -- but still - not much

Just as a point of reference (lol-nfl)

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/sacks/year/2013

In 2013:
peyton sacked 2.7%
cutler: 5.3
Rodgers: 7.2%
room: 6.5
luck: 5.6
brady: 6.3

glb2 winning league record vets: 1.37%

Originally posted by TxSteve
Just as a point of reference (lol-nfl)

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/sacks/year/2013

In 2013:
peyton sacked 2.7%
cutler: 5.3
Rodgers: 7.2%
room: 6.5
luck: 5.6
brady: 6.3

glb2 winning league record vets: 1.37%
That's because people can't build just for sacks and get away with it thanks to teams like QCBM and the top two Pro teams running around with 90+ RBP/RBT olinemen. It's also because in the NFL, there are usually weak points on the offensive line, whereas on GLB all OLinemen are built pretty much the same, so if a team knows they want to pass, they can build elite pass protecting olinemen across the board and not have any real weaknesses. My team's QB and our offensive coordinator's team's QB have both dropped back over 1250 times this season and get sacked at a rate literally below 1%. It's not that pass rush isn't good in GLB2, it's that these teams build specifically to stop the TYPE of pass rush that IS good in GLB2.

Originally posted by TxSteve
Good example of what I'm talking about.

You've invested heavily for a sophomore.

In 8 Ladder games this season (in theory should be competitive): 2 half sacks / 5 hurries / 4 tackles

Sure - you've got 34 rev cakes -- which is a good morale attack - but they didn't result in very much in terms of stats

I understand what people are saying: that a pass rush is sometimes effective without registering a hurry or sack or tackle - but I'm not entirely sold on it -- at least not sold that a pass rushing DE who invests heavy, heavy in pass rushing is 'getting his moneys worth'

I would assume it is very unlikely that many of the O linemen you are facing have anything near 80 in pass block power -- but still - not much

That's because my sacks are coming from the LBs rushing through the holes and from the outside. You can't expect to get to the QB with 82 pass rush power and 25 sprinting and quickness, but you can make a pretty big lane to run through if you want.

Plus I've got like 35 pass rush tech... even if you are just powering ahead, you aren't going to make it to the QB very often without technique.

Originally posted by Time Trial
That's because my sacks are coming from the LBs rushing through the holes and from the outside. You can't expect to get to the QB with 82 pass rush power and 25 sprinting and quickness, but you can make a pretty big lane to run through if you want.

Plus I've got like 35 pass rush tech... even if you are just powering ahead, you aren't going to make it to the QB very often without technique.

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/player/86623

40 sacks and 22 hurries

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/player/86894

25.5 sacks and 31 hurries

They use the disruption in the line by those with the Technique and Power to get to the QB with speed and quickness and to hit them with power for the FF.

The more shocking fact to take from this is how few Vet teams there are that are pass first teams

I wonder how much more lopsided this will be within the next 3-4 seasons in Vet.

Next season passing teams will be more popular in vet. The top 10 in Pro is loaded with pass first offenses.

Passing's looked better this season than it did last season in every tier. There's actually a good number of pass first offenses in upper ranks of pro that will mix into Veteran next season.

on line backers no. on d-line hells ya. i actually think you really do need and spin cycle to get much pressure from the DE spot. but the otherside of this i can get sacks and pressure with 3 men rushing.

Originally posted by Galithor
Next season passing teams will be more popular in vet. The top 10 in Pro is loaded with pass first offenses.

Passing's looked better this season than it did last season in every tier. There's actually a good number of pass first offenses in upper ranks of pro that will mix into Veteran next season.

I agree that passing actually looks a lot better. I'm not surprised that Pro is the tier that is loaded with passing teams after everyone saw how good passing could be after S1/2. Once you get to Journey, Seasoned, and Soph/Rookie heavy passing teams seem to die off quite a bit.

Originally posted by Galithor
First Step to gold is the most popular blitzing LB skill. But yeah, after that, you're looking at showboat/trash talk or something like that.

says who?

Originally posted by TDiddy8701
says who?

yea who?

Originally posted by Galithor


This guys, that's who.

All you have to do is look at any team i dc for. My team generates pressure from the front 7 all over the place. Its because too many teams try to run these super passive defenses.