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Originally posted by Galactic Empire
I'm golding this on my coverage LBs who will end their build with 45 INT. They play underneath zone on every single play and it will fire %50 of the time. So I'm looking at +15 to INT AND +5 to Quickness and Sprinting on half of my plays. Add to that Gold Third Down Stopper, and they will have some serious coverage skills going on during 3rd down.

It's only going to fire 50% of the time if you've got 100 zone awareness. But it will still work out better than whatever percent you expect because it's got more than once chance to fire as the ball is in interception range.

Sweet! That +5 to quickness and sprint helped me decide to gold it. That is a nice little addition.

Warning to those considering getting this SA, or building for ints in general:

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/player/78401

It isn't gold, but... 1 career int? C'mon. Granted, he blitzes most of the time, but I'm not sure I have ever seen this SA proc.

Do you at least see it fire?

If he blitzes most the time and avg say 40 plays a game your saying then on avg probably 15 times a game he doesn't blitz. Lets say 5 of those are run plays though realistically it's probably 10.

That's 10 plays a game on an up to 30% chance skill. That's 3 plays a game IF all those come to his zone....

Your calling it broken without setting up the player to use the skill...

Exactly.

Originally posted by Zaranthuul
If he blitzes most the time and avg say 40 plays a game your saying then on avg probably 15 times a game he doesn't blitz. Lets say 5 of those are run plays though realistically it's probably 10.

That's 10 plays a game on an up to 30% chance skill. That's 3 plays a game IF all those come to his zone....

Your calling it broken without setting up the player to use the skill...

That would be great IF it procced 3 times a game, but if you actually read my post instead of immediately dismissing it, you'll see that I said I've NEVER seen the skill proc. Not one time, ever. I don't watch every game, but I watch many games, and I may also have missed it, but I don't think I have ever seen it proc.

Edit: his one career int, btw: http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/106845/1483647?player_id=78401
(Eyes didn't even proc)

Originally posted by Vir
That would be great IF it procced 3 times a game, but if you actually read my post instead of immediately dismissing it, you'll see that I said I've NEVER seen the skill proc. Not one time, ever. I don't watch every game, but I watch many games, and I may also have missed it, but I don't think I have ever seen it proc.


Up to 30%. While only giving yourself around 5-10 chances a game you might never see it proc which is accurate. Whose to say you have enough zone to make it proc the full 30%?? Even then because it's % based and a low % chances are good you won't see it.

Regardless you don't set your player up to attempt to take advantage of the SA if your own admission is he mostly blitzes. You further reduce the odds of attempting to see it fire.

Oh and maybe need Corndog,or someone to confirm if it's like Celebration SA which fires but doesn't show when it does.

It fires...I've seen it fire before.

My bad you two, I didn't realize it was such a useful SA. Would you two mind linking me to some plays where this SA triggered usefully?

It's not a useful SA because underneath zones aren't useful for pass defense.

It is very useful and I will gold it on my coverage LBs.

One good think about EOTP is the +7 to sprinting and quickness. If you play underneath zone on every play, and it has several times to fire, then you will get the +7 to sprinting and quickness on most plays on top of the +15 to int.

Originally posted by Galactic Empire
If you play underneath zone on every play, and it has several times to fire

This is more to the point. Never said it was good or bad and I'll leave GE to argue effectiveness.

But presenting an example of ineffectiveness where you admit you sabotage the build by not using it correctly...

Not sure if this is a private scrim.

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/130182/2852208