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bhall43
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When it comes to spread you do anything possible to have more than one guy on wr4. Deadliest player on the field by far with wr3 right behind.
 
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And that is entirely what makes teams like qcbc good. You generally have to elect to stop either Barry Allen or his running game.
 
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interesting....thank you bhall
 
InRomoWeTrust
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In testing, one of the biggest advantages a team could have for pass defense purposes was a specific CB built to stop uber speed superstar WRs. The reality is that you can't get safety help in time or just due to play design.
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I'll take 3 attempts against Cover 1 or Cover 0 to gain 10-30 yards per completion.


This is what Xav was talking about...
 
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Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
In testing, one of the biggest advantages a team could have for pass defense purposes was a specific CB built to stop uber speed superstar WRs. The reality is that you can't get safety help in time or just due to play design.


interesting. then just assume that superstar isn't getting moved around?
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
From all you talk about run defense sounds like you made some really awful cb's.


not on my D'haran team, they are more built for pass defense, my rookie team i've had them more built for run defense and thats what they do
 
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If you know a team is going to pass, putting as many CBs on the field as possible is your best bet. Man Base is a great play for defending spread sets if you built your FS/SS well. All of my CBs besides 1 are under 50% receptions allowed, with 1 being in the low 30s. I think our back 7 is averaging about 1 INT a game as well so that helps. IMO, one of the worst things you can do is try to pressure a QB if that means you are leaving your CBs 1 on 1. I don't think it is possible to build a CB fast enough to keep up with these WRs and still have everything else he needs.

EDIT: It also helps to have your offense try and control the clock. Just like in the NFL where teams try to keep Peyton Manning off the field. With the last MEM/Sunday Funday game I thought we had a perfect gameplan, but still came up short.
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Originally posted by Parab00n
If you know a team is going to pass, putting as many CBs on the field as possible is your best bet. Man Base is a great play for defending spread sets if you built your FS/SS well. All of my CBs besides 1 are under 50% receptions allowed, with 1 being in the low 30s. I think our back 7 is averaging about 1 INT a game as well so that helps. IMO, one of the worst things you can do is try to pressure a QB if that means you are leaving your CBs 1 on 1. I don't think it is possible to build a CB fast enough to keep up with these WRs and still have everything else he needs.

EDIT: It also helps to have your offense try and control the clock. Just like in the NFL where teams try to keep Peyton Manning off the field. With the last MEM/Sunday Funday game I thought we had a perfect gameplan, but still came up short.


awesome - thank you Para
 
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Originally posted by Parab00n
If you know a team is going to pass, putting as many CBs on the field as possible is your best bet. Man Base is a great play for defending spread sets if you built your FS/SS well. All of my CBs besides 1 are under 50% receptions allowed, with 1 being in the low 30s. I think our back 7 is averaging about 1 INT a game as well so that helps. IMO, one of the worst things you can do is try to pressure a QB if that means you are leaving your CBs 1 on 1. I don't think it is possible to build a CB fast enough to keep up with these WRs and still have everything else he needs.

EDIT: It also helps to have your offense try and control the clock. Just like in the NFL where teams try to keep Peyton Manning off the field. With the last MEM/Sunday Funday game I thought we had a perfect gameplan, but still came up short.


Honestly I have been looking less at the REC Allowed stat all together and looking more at how many PD's teams are getting. That generally tells me how tough their defense is.
 
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Originally posted by TxSteve
interesting. then just assume that superstar isn't getting moved around?


Most of your uber WRs are going to be locked into specific spots. Like bhall mentioned with WR4 and Singleback Spread.
 
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Do you think Heart comes into play at anytime also? After a CB might allow several catches against him, will that bring his play down any?
 
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Originally posted by robbie83
Do you think Heart comes into play at anytime also? After a CB might allow several catches against him, will that bring his play down any?


Of course.
 
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Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
Most of your uber WRs are going to be locked into specific spots. Like bhall mentioned with WR4 and Singleback Spread.


Ya its really less about I need to stop their S* and more about I need to stop a specific WR who gets targeted a lot on a play.
 
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Originally posted by robbie83
Do you think Heart comes into play at anytime also? After a CB might allow several catches against him, will that bring his play down any?


More so conditioning imo. But ya heart too. I definitely see differences in my late game defense because CB's are getting tired.
 
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