that makes sense.
- why not go ahead and have the passers rage now too....get it all over at once
- why not go ahead and have the passers rage now too....get it all over at once
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had to google it. hahaha
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Originally posted by Corndog
Well, I mean you can increase the baseline pocket awareness and pass awareness skills, but then make the roll more difficult overall.
Would make low levels less awful, and would make mediocre values less godly. Two birds and a stone.
I think this is probably a good idea. I would recommend doing it very incrementally though. Small changes over several game days instead of a big change all at once.
Well, I mean you can increase the baseline pocket awareness and pass awareness skills, but then make the roll more difficult overall.
Would make low levels less awful, and would make mediocre values less godly. Two birds and a stone.
I think this is probably a good idea. I would recommend doing it very incrementally though. Small changes over several game days instead of a big change all at once.
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Originally posted by Corndog
I'd rather put a pin in blitz waypoints, and figure out how to make rookie QBs less apt at getting sacked.
The "20 sacks a game" rookie metagame is pretty lame, whether it's MO or the half dozen other popular blitzes.
Ok, first let me say that change would be great as sack-shows in rookie are kind of lame.
Second...have you even read my OP? The thing I dislike about that certain play is that it is the superior run stopper but also has one of the highest sack potentials. Thats what drives me crazy about this one atm. If you balance sacks overall, ok. But then its still that play that stands out.
Your change would be better than no change, but I do see probs there. But if you dont change the play itsself, could you at least change the playart so new coaches actually know, that its going to be a blitz on the edges rather than inside? Would be sth to help new agents I think.
On a different note...how did you make the SS make his blitz on the SS Stunt then? He actually looks like he has waypoints
I'd rather put a pin in blitz waypoints, and figure out how to make rookie QBs less apt at getting sacked.
The "20 sacks a game" rookie metagame is pretty lame, whether it's MO or the half dozen other popular blitzes.
Ok, first let me say that change would be great as sack-shows in rookie are kind of lame.
Second...have you even read my OP? The thing I dislike about that certain play is that it is the superior run stopper but also has one of the highest sack potentials. Thats what drives me crazy about this one atm. If you balance sacks overall, ok. But then its still that play that stands out.
Your change would be better than no change, but I do see probs there. But if you dont change the play itsself, could you at least change the playart so new coaches actually know, that its going to be a blitz on the edges rather than inside? Would be sth to help new agents I think.
On a different note...how did you make the SS make his blitz on the SS Stunt then? He actually looks like he has waypoints
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I'd write a guide on how to beat middle overload with the pass, but it'd be a real short guide.
Step 1: put these 5 plays in your playbook.
Step 2: profit.
Step 1: put these 5 plays in your playbook.
Step 2: profit.
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Originally posted by Galithor
I'd write a guide on how to beat middle overload with the pass, but it'd be a real short guide.
Step 1: put these 5 plays in your playbook.
Step 2: profit.
On rookie?
I'd write a guide on how to beat middle overload with the pass, but it'd be a real short guide.
Step 1: put these 5 plays in your playbook.
Step 2: profit.
On rookie?
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Originally posted by peeti
On rookie?
as long as your QB goes 40+ pass awareness asap, you can probably start succeeding. Not for 2WR formations though.
the biggest mistake made in rookie is using any other passes that get you sacked regularly. There's nothing that can be done once you're spiraled.
On rookie?
as long as your QB goes 40+ pass awareness asap, you can probably start succeeding. Not for 2WR formations though.
the biggest mistake made in rookie is using any other passes that get you sacked regularly. There's nothing that can be done once you're spiraled.
Edited by Galithor on May 28, 2014 07:21:35
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Originally posted by Galithor
as long as your QB goes 40+ pass awareness asap, you can probably start succeeding. Not for 2WR formations though.
Then sorry man, I dont care at all. I know it can be easily beaten by it in higher levels. Have done it several times myself with passes and outside rushes.
I am really talking about Rookie, and there my QB never had enought time to get most of his passes out of his hands.
So I do see much potential on Cornys fix there, tho
as long as your QB goes 40+ pass awareness asap, you can probably start succeeding. Not for 2WR formations though.
Then sorry man, I dont care at all. I know it can be easily beaten by it in higher levels. Have done it several times myself with passes and outside rushes.
I am really talking about Rookie, and there my QB never had enought time to get most of his passes out of his hands.
So I do see much potential on Cornys fix there, tho
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Here's a quick guide to picking the right plays:
1. Play must be 3/4WR.
2. WR3 must be first or second read.
3. WR3 route must be flag, streak, hook, out, wheel type routes. Nothing where they break to the inside.
4. Routes with a cut, like flag or out, need to make that break in the 5-7 yard range. Don't run deep corner where WR3 doesn't break outside till way late. Takes too long.
5. set flag route plays to the highest priority. hook routes second highest. out routes to the lowest (they don't gain enough yards).
6. Put your best two receivers at WR3. Preferably guys that can catch and have some sprinting and quickness. Give them high contracts if possible to improve heart for any drops.
How to build the QB:
1. Spend all initial points on Pass Awareness. Take Quick Read as your first SA. Should be able to get 32-33 depending on attributes and traits. Spend first several games on pass awareness. By game 4-5, you can have 40 pass awareness.
2. Get conditioning up to 35 or so next.
3. Definitely go with a high contract, and then get 25 heart next after conditioning. With high contract, that's 50 effective heart.
4. Now take awareness to 50.
5. Work on other passing skills. You should be nearly immune to M/O sacks by now. Your bigger issue will be drops and overthrows at this point.
1. Play must be 3/4WR.
2. WR3 must be first or second read.
3. WR3 route must be flag, streak, hook, out, wheel type routes. Nothing where they break to the inside.
4. Routes with a cut, like flag or out, need to make that break in the 5-7 yard range. Don't run deep corner where WR3 doesn't break outside till way late. Takes too long.
5. set flag route plays to the highest priority. hook routes second highest. out routes to the lowest (they don't gain enough yards).
6. Put your best two receivers at WR3. Preferably guys that can catch and have some sprinting and quickness. Give them high contracts if possible to improve heart for any drops.
How to build the QB:
1. Spend all initial points on Pass Awareness. Take Quick Read as your first SA. Should be able to get 32-33 depending on attributes and traits. Spend first several games on pass awareness. By game 4-5, you can have 40 pass awareness.
2. Get conditioning up to 35 or so next.
3. Definitely go with a high contract, and then get 25 heart next after conditioning. With high contract, that's 50 effective heart.
4. Now take awareness to 50.
5. Work on other passing skills. You should be nearly immune to M/O sacks by now. Your bigger issue will be drops and overthrows at this point.
Edited by Galithor on May 28, 2014 07:55:40
Edited by Galithor on May 28, 2014 07:51:30
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Originally posted by peeti
Then sorry man, I dont care at all. I know it can be easily beaten by it in higher levels. Have done it several times myself with passes and outside rushes.
I am really talking about Rookie, and there my QB never had enought time to get most of his passes out of his hands.
So I do see much potential on Cornys fix there, tho
You're not building your QB right if you can't have it mostly defeated by the first star.
What's the point in pass tech, pass accuracy, pass power if you can't get off a pass? The only skill that matters for the first half of rookie for a QB is Pass Awareness, and the support skills conditioning/heart to preserve your pass awareness.
Then sorry man, I dont care at all. I know it can be easily beaten by it in higher levels. Have done it several times myself with passes and outside rushes.
I am really talking about Rookie, and there my QB never had enought time to get most of his passes out of his hands.
So I do see much potential on Cornys fix there, tho
You're not building your QB right if you can't have it mostly defeated by the first star.
What's the point in pass tech, pass accuracy, pass power if you can't get off a pass? The only skill that matters for the first half of rookie for a QB is Pass Awareness, and the support skills conditioning/heart to preserve your pass awareness.
Edited by Galithor on May 28, 2014 07:50:54
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Originally posted by peeti
So I do see much potential on Cornys fix there, tho
As for corny's fix, increasing baseline awareness and reducing the impact of the awareness skills should mean you can get to the "40" skill type of impact more simply, but have to invest considerably more in awareness to attain awareness god mode like can be had once you reach about 60 in the skills right now. The only reason to go above 60 at this point in either skill would be to build a buffer for morale/energy loss.
So I do see much potential on Cornys fix there, tho
As for corny's fix, increasing baseline awareness and reducing the impact of the awareness skills should mean you can get to the "40" skill type of impact more simply, but have to invest considerably more in awareness to attain awareness god mode like can be had once you reach about 60 in the skills right now. The only reason to go above 60 at this point in either skill would be to build a buffer for morale/energy loss.
Edited by Galithor on May 28, 2014 07:56:30
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Originally posted by Galithor
You're not building your QB right if you can't have it mostly defeated by the first star.
What's the point in pass tech, pass accuracy, pass power if you can't get off a pass? The only skill that matters for the first half of rookie for a QB is Pass Awareness, and the support skills conditioning/heart to preserve your pass awareness.
dude...you dont see my build but he nearly only has AWR cause I know thats the factor. But that doesnt have to do with it, at least not exclusively
You're not building your QB right if you can't have it mostly defeated by the first star.
What's the point in pass tech, pass accuracy, pass power if you can't get off a pass? The only skill that matters for the first half of rookie for a QB is Pass Awareness, and the support skills conditioning/heart to preserve your pass awareness.
dude...you dont see my build but he nearly only has AWR cause I know thats the factor. But that doesnt have to do with it, at least not exclusively
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Originally posted by peeti
dude...you dont see my build but he nearly only has AWR cause I know thats the factor. But that doesnt have to do with it, at least not exclusively
Nope. The playcalling is just as critical. You can't afford to run a single passing play that doesn't meet the criteria above against Middle Overload.
I can't even do that now at Seasoned. If I try anything else against a team like Harrisonburg or Atlantic City, it's a big sack risk. You have to abuse the embarrassingly bad coverage of WR3.
dude...you dont see my build but he nearly only has AWR cause I know thats the factor. But that doesnt have to do with it, at least not exclusively
Nope. The playcalling is just as critical. You can't afford to run a single passing play that doesn't meet the criteria above against Middle Overload.
I can't even do that now at Seasoned. If I try anything else against a team like Harrisonburg or Atlantic City, it's a big sack risk. You have to abuse the embarrassingly bad coverage of WR3.
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Originally posted by Galithor
Nope. The playcalling is just as critical. You can't afford to run a single passing play that doesn't meet the criteria above against Middle Overload.
I can't even do that now at Seasoned. If I try anything else against a team like Harrisonburg or Atlantic City, it's a big sack risk. You have to abuse the embarrassingly bad coverage of WR3.
I ran plays that worked for me for 3 seasons in rookie already
Nope. The playcalling is just as critical. You can't afford to run a single passing play that doesn't meet the criteria above against Middle Overload.
I can't even do that now at Seasoned. If I try anything else against a team like Harrisonburg or Atlantic City, it's a big sack risk. You have to abuse the embarrassingly bad coverage of WR3.
I ran plays that worked for me for 3 seasons in rookie already
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