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I still don't even know if Corndog is off the leash. I still think that there are a lot of fixes that he can't do because "only Bort has access" or whatever. I know that's how it used to be, but I have seen Corn get into areas that he previously didn't have access to make changes to, so maybe that is different.

If we are aware of Corny's limitations, we can better stream what information goes to him and what information Bort needs to be aware of.

This could then translate into better communication with the users.

We've all known that Coverage Commander doesn't activate for awhile now, but we have no communication regarding whether Corn/Bort are aware or whether a fix is coming.

Originally posted by Corndog
Basically just reiterating the fact that nobody has compiled a list of why "end of second quarter play calling is the worst thing ever", and it's hard to go around finding various threads that people have various problems with.

Was the Goalline formation mania discussed?

I'm all for diversity of builds and team theories but if continually spamming goalline toss plays becomes the best method for winning it's going to get pretty boring in GLB2 and repetitive.

Of the top 5 teams in rookie and sophomore ball (10 Total) 8 of them are regularly using goalline toss plays. I can't think of a less realistic formation to run plays from (and yes I do it to at times because it works) but is there any thought on more realism? Like I said I'm fine with running QBs and heavy run teams doing well just right now thats the only way to be dominant at lower level's of the game which is less than exciting to me.

I don't know - but Digital Daggers posted this in the Cheese Report thread:

Originally posted by DigitalDaggers
FYI: I wouldn't recommend building an entire offense to spam a gimmick play.





...we have been known to modify things...

Originally posted by william78
Was the Goalline formation mania discussed?

I'm all for diversity of builds and team theories but if continually spamming goalline toss plays becomes the best method for winning it's going to get pretty boring in GLB2 and repetitive.

Of the top 5 teams in rookie and sophomore ball (10 Total) 8 of them are regularly using goalline toss plays. I can't think of a less realistic formation to run plays from (and yes I do it to at times because it works) but is there any thought on more realism? Like I said I'm fine with running QBs and heavy run teams doing well just right now thats the only way to be dominant at lower level's of the game which is less than exciting to me.

+1

Originally posted by william78
Was the Goalline formation mania discussed?

I'm all for diversity of builds and team theories but if continually spamming goalline toss plays becomes the best method for winning it's going to get pretty boring in GLB2 and repetitive.

Of the top 5 teams in rookie and sophomore ball (10 Total) 8 of them are regularly using goalline toss plays. I can't think of a less realistic formation to run plays from (and yes I do it to at times because it works) but is there any thought on more realism? Like I said I'm fine with running QBs and heavy run teams doing well just right now thats the only way to be dominant at lower level's of the game which is less than exciting to me.

I dont think the Sweep is the problem as this got busted pretty often and good with Erkner for example. The Problem is more of the QB Rollout. With that said, its that Ds to stop the QB Rollout are not as good to destroy the HB Sweep out of GL. But there are many many plays who do stop the sweep pretty good

Originally posted by peeti
I dont think the Sweep is the problem as this got busted pretty often and good with Erkner for example. The Problem is more of the QB Rollout. With that said, its that Ds to stop the QB Rollout are not as good to destroy the HB Sweep out of GL. But there are many many plays who do stop the sweep pretty good

Understand your point, and I do think there should be rollout plays and power formations for teams that want to run , well basically what you see say Georgia Tech run. I just don't want it to be the only sure way to build a dominating offense. I think that gets very boring. I also know that goalline with three TE's in a power stack isn't a very realistic formation from a football sim perspective.
A power running formation with 3 backs or a double tight aligned to one side to give them some options I'm good with. Just an argument for realism the Over powered concept has been debated enough.

Originally posted by william78
Understand your point, and I do think there should be rollout plays and power formations for teams that want to run , well basically what you see say Georgia Tech run. I just don't want it to be the only sure way to build a dominating offense. I think that gets very boring. I also know that goalline with three TE's in a power stack isn't a very realistic formation from a football sim perspective.
A power running formation with 3 backs or a double tight aligned to one side to give them some options I'm good with. Just an argument for realism the Over powered concept has been debated enough.

If you even remotely believe that QB Rollout is the only way to build a dominating offense, then you have not once watched a game at Journeyman or Seasoned level.

The overwhelming majority of good teams are pass first, and I suspect it's only a matter of time before the really good seasoned passing teams start knocking even the current journeyman running teams off. There is simply no reliable defense to fast WR's running deep routes since the coverage changes. And since those same coverage changes made the underneath stuff very unreliable, most OC's are quickly adapting to the new meta.

Originally posted by Xavori
If you even remotely believe that QB Rollout is the only way to build a dominating offense, then you have not once watched a game at Journeyman or Seasoned level.

The overwhelming majority of good teams are pass first, and I suspect it's only a matter of time before the really good seasoned passing teams start knocking even the current journeyman running teams off. There is simply no reliable defense to fast WR's running deep routes since the coverage changes. And since those same coverage changes made the underneath stuff very unreliable, most OC's are quickly adapting to the new meta.

I own a team #15 on the ladder I have a pretty good idea of what works and what doesn't at higher tiers. Its no accident that 80% of the top teams in rookie and sophomore though are using some sort of heavy goalline variation. There are quite a few good defenses to handle the pass, even reliably so. Also fast is one part of it not the only part by any stretch.

You know you really have a unique view to believe your the only smart person around and that your opinion is the only correct one, to the point you believe it as fact and not opinion. I'm fine with you have multiple working plays to run but GL run teams are improving their builds and moving up in maturity. It may well continue to be effective. I really wouldn't want to participate in a game that 80% of the teams are reliant on a single formation or theory. I'd love the top teams to be populated by great passing teams, great rushing teams, great defensive teams etc.. Not just simply one way to build a dominating team.

Originally posted by william78
I own a team #15 on the ladder I have a pretty good idea of what works and what doesn't at higher tiers. Its no accident that 80% of the top teams in rookie and sophomore though are using some sort of heavy goalline variation. There are quite a few good defenses to handle the pass, even reliably so. Also fast is one part of it not the only part by any stretch.

You know you really have a unique view to believe your the only smart person around and that your opinion is the only correct one, to the point you believe it as fact and not opinion. I'm fine with you have multiple working plays to run but GL run teams are improving their builds and moving up in maturity. It may well continue to be effective. I really wouldn't want to participate in a game that 80% of the teams are reliant on a single formation or theory. I'd love the top teams to be populated by great passing teams, great rushing teams, great defensive teams etc.. Not just simply one way to build a dominating team.


Hell I'm excited. All these defenses that will be built to stop GL Rollouts with all thier fancy high pursuit and break block and tackling skills? Yes please

Originally posted by william78
There are quite a few good defenses to handle the pass, even reliably so. Also fast is one part of it not the only part by any stretch.

I have no idea what game you are playing, but it's definitely not GLB2.

Originally posted by bhall43
Originally posted by william78

There are quite a few good defenses to handle the pass, even reliably so.





I don't think he's heard of Sunday Funday and their 600+ yards passing per game, nor the 571 yards passing they put up on the best team in the game...

Originally posted by Xavori
I don't think he's heard of Sunday Funday and their 600+ yards passing per game, nor the 571 yards passing they put up on the best team in the game...

Yes yes tell us again how your the smartest guy in the room and the rest of us are beyond stupid. Really if you want respect for your ideas you should try giving some. It'll make you more effective getting what you want. It took me along time in life to realize it then I grew up.

Originally posted by william78
Yes yes tell us again how your the smartest guy in the room and the rest of us are beyond stupid. Really if you want respect for your ideas you should try giving some. It'll make you more effective getting what you want. It took me along time in life to realize it then I grew up.

Well, on those occasions when I'm not the smartest guy in the room, I tend to listen to the ones who are.

And I don't treat everyone like they are beyond stupid. In fact, I tend not to make any judgements about the intelligence of others without a significant amount of interaction, and I'd definitely not do so with postings on internet forums as a basis.

As for getting what I want...what makes you think I'm not?

If there is good defenses to stop the pass I'll sit down and take notes. I would put my CBs up against anyones in the game right now and they played fairly good vs SF, but when it's easier to complete a 25+ yard pass than it is a 5 yard pass any team that can at least hit 50% passing rarely can be stopped. That game I said they played well in...they gave up over 500 yards.