Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Allanon23
No shame in that. Drinkin' is a solid team. They played us tough both times last season.

I know but after scoring 21 in the 1st I hit box score. Was like wtf when I saw the comeback.

first ladder game: lost to exploity outside running team

second ladder game: set to face exploity outside running team

fml

Originally posted by Kayoh
first ladder game: lost to exploity outside running team

second ladder game: set to face exploity outside running team

fml

Thats just plain stupid. Minimares got easily beat with Inside runs and passes and their "exploity" Outside run game was held to 7 points in their last ladder game

Originally posted by peeti
Thats just plain stupid. Minimares got easily beat with Inside runs and passes and their "exploity" Outside run game was held to 7 points in their last ladder game
believe me, I watched the game. I was speaking in hyperbole fwiw. It could be worse, I could've gotten paired up with Yorick rather than the Minimares. Or D'Haran again.

Baby Banger > those teams

Originally posted by peeti
Thats just plain stupid. Minimares got easily beat with Inside runs and passes and their "exploity" Outside run game was held to 7 points in their last ladder game

THAT'S UNPOSSIBLE!!!!

I have it on the bestest of authority that there is no way to stop those exploity outside run teams and they all score bazillions of points each game and never lose as a result!

Originally posted by Xavori
THAT'S UNPOSSIBLE!!!!

I have it on the bestest of authority that there is no way to stop those exploity outside run teams and they all score bazillions of points each game and never lose as a result!

Jupp, you are smart and totally got the point of Tx there

Originally posted by peeti
Jupp, you are smart and totally got the point of Tx there

Tx keeps calling it overpowered, and yet if you watch entire games of QB rollout, it doesn't really work that well.

For example, even with 2 QB's, if you overuse the play, both QB's end up with no stamina and against real defenses (ie. not CPU rookie), the rollout turns into a guaranteed 5 yard loss. It's been my experience that the same thing happens against the play early in games when linebackers just blow pass the pulling o-lineman.

So what I think is happening is that their feelings are being driven the one or two really memorable times where a QB breaks free for an 80 yard run, where my feelings are being driven from the hundreds of times of watching my QB's get tackled for loss.

And in my opinion, any play that fails more often than works isn't really OP. I continue to use because while it does fail more often, I've built a team that's reduced the number of failures, and a QB who is currently one of the fastest players in any game and therefore is deadly if he gets past the defense.

Originally posted by Xavori
Tx keeps calling it overpowered, and yet if you watch entire games of QB rollout, it doesn't really work that well.

For example, even with 2 QB's, if you overuse the play, both QB's end up with no stamina and against real defenses (ie. not CPU rookie), the rollout turns into a guaranteed 5 yard loss. It's been my experience that the same thing happens against the play early in games when linebackers just blow pass the pulling o-lineman.

So what I think is happening is that their feelings are being driven the one or two really memorable times where a QB breaks free for an 80 yard run, where my feelings are being driven from the hundreds of times of watching my QB's get tackled for loss.

And in my opinion, any play that fails more often than works isn't really OP. I continue to use because while it does fail more often, I've built a team that's reduced the number of failures, and a QB who is currently one of the fastest players in any game and therefore is deadly if he gets past the defense.

I already understood ur point in the other thread. Was just pointing out that there is a) no reason to bring that argument over here and b) in such a stupid bad sarcastic way

If u are bored write Rookie Stuff again

Originally posted by peeti
I already understood ur point in the other thread. Was just pointing out that there is a) no reason to bring that argument over here and b) in such a stupid bad sarcastic way

If u are bored write Rookie Stuff again

I plan to once there aren't a bazillion rookie teams ranked #1

Xav's world is crumbling around him -- and we're now spreading to other threads in the hope of spreading your propaganda?

fun!

The games are private - unfortunately - but this:

"For example, even with 2 QB's, if you overuse the play, both QB's end up with no stamina and against real defenses (ie. not CPU rookie), the rollout turns into a guaranteed 5 yard loss. It's been my experience that the same thing happens against the play early in games when linebackers just blow pass the pulling o-lineman."

is not true. I ran 3 scrims with Nebraska yesterday trying multiple plays to try to evaluate it.

I know you desperately do not want your play changed...but stop running around lying to people dude. Your arrogance and ego are astounding. I am well familiar with the phrase "a lie told often enough becomes the truth" - is that your life's motto?

Originally posted by TxSteve
Xav's world is crumbling around him -- and we're now spreading to other threads in the hope of spreading your propaganda?

fun!

The games are private - unfortunately - but this:

"For example, even with 2 QB's, if you overuse the play, both QB's end up with no stamina and against real defenses (ie. not CPU rookie), the rollout turns into a guaranteed 5 yard loss. It's been my experience that the same thing happens against the play early in games when linebackers just blow pass the pulling o-lineman."

is not true. I ran 3 scrims with Nebraska yesterday trying multiple plays to try to evaluate it.

I know you desperately do not want your play changed...but stop running around lying to people dude. Your arrogance and ego are astounding. I am well familiar with the phrase "a lie told often enough becomes the truth" - is that your life's motto?



Really? You're going to claim private scrims show something different than Yorick's public games do because you really can look at least season's Yorick games and see where the QB rollout falls off if run too much.

And I'm not opposed to nerfing the play because it's my favorite, I'm opposed to nerfing because I'm opposed to nerfing in general unless you can show cause. Nobody has done that. I've gotten lots of ZOMG OP, and ZOMG YOU CAN'T STOP, but when I show a games where it does get stopped or the QB is held to zero TD's, suddenly that's not good enough and instead I have to show that it also gets no yards at all which would be beyond stupid.

So, want to convince me I'm wrong, you're going to need evidence that nothing a team can do can stop this play.

In the meantime, I'm going to keep pointing out the lack of evidence for a specific play being OP, and instead push for a better fix for the way that defenses play all outside runs because everything people point out being wrong with QB Rollout Strong is just as wrong with all the fast outside sweeps, HB or QB.

Oh, and side note, if I could start Yorick over again from scratch, it'd still be a running team, but it would be very different because my offseason changes have found better stuffs that are just going to take time for builds to be ready for.

Your evidence was holding a play to 17 ypc. Not once did you even hold it under 10 yards. You are embarrassing yourself really.

Originally posted by Xavori
I plan to once there aren't a bazillion rookie teams ranked #1

Actually only 14 (or even only 1 as RUN GLB got tricked to be number 1)

Originally posted by bhall43
Your evidence was holding a play to 17 ypc. Not once did you even hold it under 10 yards. You are embarrassing yourself really.

What part of YPC doesn't matter do you not understand? Even in the NFL, QB YPC gets inflated because of the types of runs QB do.

Winning matters. Participation ribbons for holding a QB to less than 10 yards per carry don't.

But since you keep asking:
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/game/52842

Quincy at 6YPC and 0 TD's. Not surprisingly, Yorick lost.

Which I know is unpossible, but apparently it happened anyway.