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Time Trial
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Originally posted by NiborRis
Don't get too excited, he's had 3 complete cupcake games won by a total of 232-3 where 36 of his cakes came from.


Also he runs on 80% of his plays, so he's bound to get more run block cakes.

Anyone else think that the cakes/play stat needs an extra digit? Is there anyone in the game that is even at 0.2?
 
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Originally posted by Makntak
...make an ass of me - 46 cakes in 7 games! I've got O-linemen who haven't had that many cakes in, like, 30 games!



http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/player/11673

Doesn't show cakes in the stat line for a BTE for some reason, but he might have more.

He's at a more reasonable 69/55 power/tech, but with maxed out lead/run awareness and block con. ...not that maxed out it that high for an EB build, 50/51/45.
 
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Originally posted by Time Trial
Pancake Chef is technique (knock off balance) Get Low is power (push back).

Makes sense, as the counter is Break Run Block and Hold Ground.


Yep, got that - I just find it somewhat backwards, as in real life, a Pancake is much more power than Tech - that is what makes it interesting.

As an Olineman, (which I was for many years), "Getting Low" is a tech aspect of blocking, whereas the pancake was caused by overpowering someone (sometimes the result of "getting lower" or "underneath" - but still ultimately caused by overpowering them). Not too often does pure technique cause a pancake, it almost always comes down to power.
 
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Originally posted by Time Trial
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/player/11673

Doesn't show cakes in the stat line for a BTE for some reason, but he might have more.

He's at a more reasonable 69/55 power/tech, but with maxed out lead/run awareness and block con. ...not that maxed out it that high for an EB build, 50/51/45.


Very similar build here - except you have higher con and I am guessing my dude has higher Sprinting (48):

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/player/21135

I am now going to work on his Rec skills to make his end build be a hybrid.

60 Power/55 Tech/55 Aware

Edited by Pariah on Apr 3, 2014 22:25:17
 
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Originally posted by Pariah

As an Olineman, (which I was for many years), "Getting Low" is a tech aspect of blocking, whereas the pancake was caused by overpowering someone (sometimes the result of "getting lower" or "underneath" - but still ultimately caused by overpowering them). Not too often does pure technique cause a pancake, it almost always comes down to power.


where i think you're wrong tbh, not sure if glb2s like this
 
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Originally posted by Jampy2.0
where i think you're wrong tbh, not sure if glb2s like this


That's what I am saying, GLB2 isn't like that.

Basically saying those SAs are kinda opposite of real life.
Edited by Pariah on Apr 3, 2014 22:30:33
 
Jampy2.0
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ah, i was wondering why you were talking about irl on glb...
 
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Question I have, does Get Low lead to Pancakes also, if you are pushing a defender backwards, is balanced diminished as well, and can that lead to mas pancakas?

Does anyone have a balanced build with Tech/Power and both SA: G. Low and Pancake?
 
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Originally posted by Pariah
Yep, got that - I just find it somewhat backwards, as in real life, a Pancake is much more power than Tech - that is what makes it interesting.

As an Olineman, (which I was for many years), "Getting Low" is a tech aspect of blocking, whereas the pancake was caused by overpowering someone (sometimes the result of "getting lower" or "underneath" - but still ultimately caused by overpowering them). Not too often does pure technique cause a pancake, it almost always comes down to power.


In this game, pancake chef doesn't actually give you a pancake though... I think it affects balance or something... hold on.

"Loses x% more balance than usual." ...I'm guessing through technical blocking skills rather than force. Whereas getting low isn't about balance in this sim, it is about pushing the other player backwards using force, even without casuing them to lose additional balance.

The actual pancake is about winning the interaction so well (through a combination of both technique and power) that they lose their balance enough for you to get the cake.
 
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Originally posted by Pariah
Very similar build here - except you have higher con and I am guessing my dude has higher Sprinting (48):

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/player/21135

I am now going to work on his Rec skills to make his end build be a hybrid.

60 Power/55 Tech/55 Aware



Lol, my BTE seems to have better hands than my hands WRs, and he's only got 40/40 Rec Hands/CiT.
 
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Originally posted by Time Trial


The actual pancake is about winning the interaction so well (through a combination of both technique and power) that they lose their balance enough for you to get the cake.



Answers this pretty much:



Originally posted by Pariah
Question I have, does Get Low lead to Pancakes also, if you are pushing a defender backwards, is balanced diminished as well, and can that lead to mas pancakas?


 
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Originally posted by Time Trial
Lol, my BTE seems to have better hands than my hands WRs, and he's only got 40/40 Rec Hands/CiT.


Yeah, not bad - 2 drops all season. I just want him viable in the passing game, so he isn't a liability, and it seems it doesn't take much LOL
 
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Power/technique is pretty simple to understand.

Power moves the defender. Technique holds the block.

O-line need both. They need to get the guy out of the hole/throwing lane, and they need to be able to hold their blocks.

Outside run blockers can get by with just technique as long as the ball carriers they block for have good carry awareness. They just need to hold blocks.

Oh, and TT's guy is pretty impressive at cooking up yummy pancakes, but both my tackles are on pace to blow his rookie season record away (and sophomore too). With luck, by the time they get to seasoned, they'll be able to beat that pace as well.

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/player/60655
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/player/60661

 
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Originally posted by Time Trial
Also he runs on 80% of his plays, so he's bound to get more run block cakes.

Anyone else think that the cakes/play stat needs an extra digit? Is there anyone in the game that is even at 0.2?


http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/player/18508

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Originally posted by Time Trial
http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/player/11673

Doesn't show cakes in the stat line for a BTE for some reason, but he might have more.

He's at a more reasonable 69/55 power/tech, but with maxed out lead/run awareness and block con. ...not that maxed out it that high for an EB build, 50/51/45.


Crazy that TEs don't get cake stats as standard.

Interesting discussion all round though. I think I may need to respec my O-Linemen.
 
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