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Originally posted by bhall43
I have no idea what you are talking about because it isn't an Signature Ability and the attribute Return Awareness absolutely says it is to return interceptions and fumbles.
I think he's referring to a trait, not an SA.

Originally posted by Kayoh

I think he's referring to a trait, not an SA.

Thats it.

Edited to correct information.

Originally posted by Kayoh

I think he's referring to a trait, not an SA.

If it is trait we are talking about than it really doesn't matter at all. You can hit the screen and see that a CB has no returning skills whatsoever and you can read over the Return Awareness skill and see that the reason why it is part of their skills is for interception and fumble return lanes.

It just doesn't seem like it should have the trait if it doesn't offer any value at all. That would barely be an excuse to keep that trait for the CB. At least give it something to hold weight for the trait. If it's just for those two things, just get rid of the trait because no one would add that for any reason other than doing returns. You are playing chance that you will ever get to use that trait and the value isn't even worth it if you are looking at just interceptions and fumbles.

While I don't disagree that Return Awareness alone as a skill on a trait is really weak (I most certainly wouldn't even take that trait as a returner only build), the idea that it is part of the traits is because it is a skill for that position.

Okay, I see it that way.

Originally posted by bhall43
While I don't disagree that Return Awareness alone as a skill on a trait is really weak (I most certainly wouldn't even take that trait as a returner only build), the idea that it is part of the traits is because it is a skill for that position.

It is a "free" trait, most of them are pretty insignificant.

Originally posted by Corndog
It is a "free" trait, most of them are pretty insignificant.

What if you took "Return Awr" and it unlocked the carry attributes? You wouldn't have to change the 5% buff as I think it's pretty fair if it unlocks the other thigns.

Originally posted by Adderfist
What if you took "Return Awr" and it unlocked the carry attributes? You wouldn't have to change the 5% buff as I think it's pretty fair if it unlocks the other thigns.

I was thinking of this but I didn't know how difficult it would be to put a lock/unlock feature put in.

Originally posted by Adderfist
What if you took "Return Awr" and it unlocked the carry attributes? You wouldn't have to change the 5% buff as I think it's pretty fair if it unlocks the other thigns.

It wouldn't do much good as those skills would still cost a lot and have awful caps.

CBs weren't really intended to be kick returners.

It's just funny to me there is return awareness for someone, regardless of the meaning for it and not have everything that goes with it. Maybe he does have a bad cap with carrying, but at least it would be better than what it is currently. It was more nitpicking than anything and just thought it could create a discussion on this and see what people (including admins) thought of it.

Originally posted by Reaper Of The Dead
It's just funny to me there is return awareness for someone, regardless of the meaning for it and not have everything that goes with it. Maybe he does have a bad cap with carrying, but at least it would be better than what it is currently. It was more nitpicking than anything and just thought it could create a discussion on this and see what people (including admins) thought of it.

HBs and WRs have return awareness and don't get the full benefit of returning interceptions with it.

Originally posted by Corndog
HBs and WRs have return awareness and don't get the full benefit of returning interceptions with it.

You can't play them on Defense so there is no need for them to have a Interception Skill put on their page. But, you can play a CB on ST and play them as Return Man if you wanted to. I know what you are getting at with the CB, but that is comparing apples to oranges with that argument with the HB and WR.

It just makes absolutely terrible sense to go through and give CB's all the return abilities when they clearly aren't going to be anywhere near as good as a returner from HB, WR, or FB. The only reason it made any logical sense in GLB1 was that CB's were given the SA in their tree and they were cheaper than both HB and WR. Now? Nonsense.