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Having a back pick up the blitz is pretty common in football.

If GLB is trying to make us build rounded players instead of specialists, this isn't exactly helpful. Like pottsman mentioned, I can ignore any and all pass blocking attributes on HBs, FBs and most likely TEs as well.

Holding a back in to block gives you one more blocker, but obviously one less receiver. It's a risk/reward. In addition, if you want that back to be any sort of help in pass pro, you're going to need to invest in the appropriate skills. Might people ALWAYS keep their HB or FB in? Maybe. But you might have people who tend to let them run routes. You might have people who do a little of both, depending on the opponent.

its just not fair to the D. plain and simple.

Originally posted by Jampy2.0
its just not fair to the D. plain and simple.

Purely because of the numbers? Unless the back has significant points in the blocking skills, he won't be much in terms of protection. More of a "slow em down" kind of thing than anything else.

If a team likes to hold their back in, you either chose your blitzes wisely, or drop that defender into coverage. That's how football is. Granted, GLB doesn't have a lot of the weapons real defenses do with delayed blitzes, stunts (yet), decent man coverage, etc. but holding a back in shouldn't all of a sudden turn an offense into an unstoppable beast.

It'll remove a receiving option, and a defense should still be able to get a sack, albeit less frequently.

Originally posted by Staz
Having a back pick up the blitz is pretty common in football.

If GLB is trying to make us build rounded players instead of specialists, this isn't exactly helpful. Like pottsman mentioned, I can ignore any and all pass blocking attributes on HBs, FBs and most likely TEs as well.

Holding a back in to block gives you one more blocker, but obviously one less receiver. It's a risk/reward. In addition, if you want that back to be any sort of help in pass pro, you're going to need to invest in the appropriate skills. Might people ALWAYS keep their HB or FB in? Maybe. But you might have people who tend to let them run routes. You might have people who do a little of both, depending on the opponent.

You can ignore all blocking or receiving attributes on any of those 3 really. But more to the point is that if you can hold those positions in when you want as a coordinator it allows you to min/max all the best attributes with no consequence.

I do think they should hold back more on the audibles though.

Originally posted by bhall43
You can ignore all blocking or receiving attributes on any of those 3 really. But more to the point is that if you can hold those positions in when you want as a coordinator it allows you to min/max all the best attributes with no consequence.

I do think they should hold back more on the audibles though.

As it is, you can min max fine - there is literally no consequence currently for ignoring the pass blocking skills, because you're never blocking on more than 5 plays per game (I will paypal $5 to the first person who can find one back/TE held in to block on 6+ plays in a competitive league/ladder game. Dead serious - any game where both teams had a shot to win, with legit AI gameplans, I'll send the cash). You are going out on more than 5 passing plays (assuming a starter, balanced passing attack, using relevant formations), though, and are probably getting a good handful of targets.

You can currently avoid blocking attributes all together on any of those 3 positions. But the point is that if you can hold back those guys whenever you want, you don't need blocking attributes or receiving attributes. You can hold them back for the sole purpose of targeting your better receivers on every play and only focus on running skills with that HB or FB. And before you talk about how you can do that now by using certain formations for pass and run, sure you can, but that is just another element that you had to sacrifice.

I could run some games right now and show you one back or TE held in on some plays. But those are all out blitz's. Just run the all out blitz AI against someone using the check boxes. That is what Corndog and I did last season. That is the current problem with the structure tho.

Originally posted by bhall43
You can currently avoid blocking attributes all together on any of those 3 positions. But the point is that if you can hold back those guys whenever you want, you don't need blocking attributes or receiving attributes. You can hold them back for the sole purpose of targeting your better receivers on every play and only focus on running skills with that HB or FB. And before you talk about how you can do that now by using certain formations for pass and run, sure you can, but that is just another element that you had to sacrifice.

I could run some games right now and show you one back or TE held in on some plays. But those are all out blitz's. Just run the all out blitz AI against someone using the check boxes. That is what Corndog and I did last season. That is the current problem with the structure tho.

lets just move one of the now dozens of threads suggesting this to NGTH so we stop asking