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bhall43
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Originally posted by hoshdude7
I dont see too many people making suerstar cb's in the future. Total waste


Superstar secondaries were awesome on the server.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
Superstar secondaries were awesome on the server.


Eventually I'd like to make a team with 3 superstar DE's and 3 superstar corners. and maybe a superstar HB. Ground and pound, and just let your D do the work.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
Superstar secondaries were awesome on the server.


Could you elaborate some more? Im interested
 
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They did things?
 
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Originally posted by Jampy2.0
this is a stretch, I just don't see many pure int CBs..

Right now if you don't have deflection (lol all of AGD2D secondary) you're gonna be stuck in the 40-60% recall range.


Nobody in our secondary has any appreciable intercepting or deflecting. Still under 40% recall. Pressure matters more than secondary skill by far.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
Because making over corrections based on unfinished builds isn't a desirable solution.


So we have to have 100 man or zone awareness to show average coverage reactions? We have multiple guys on our secondary with over 80 man or zone awareness and they still look like they should have never have been on a highschool team.
 
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Originally posted by -Phaytle-
Nobody in our secondary has any appreciable intercepting or deflecting. Still under 40% recall. Pressure matters more than secondary skill by far.


So then you loaded up on coverage skills... It's the same thing,
either you invest in coverage or PD.
 
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Originally posted by Jampy2.0
So then you loaded up on coverage skills... It's the same thing,
either you invest in coverage or PD.


The problem isn't the skills the secondary invests in. It's the way the secondary is coded to cover. Do you ever... ever... really,even one time, ever see a CB just run a couple yards ahead of a WR on any route? NO, that is just retarded. The CB adjusts his speed to the WR. He knows he has help over the top so he covers the inside and underneath. If he doesn't have help over the top then he is in stride with the WR and uses his position to not allow the WR to get past. Sometimes it doesn't work out for the CB and the WR burns the CB. Unless it is a really good throw and the WR catches it in stride the CB can still recover in the time it takes the WR to adjust t the ball. But in this game the CBs and safeties put themselves in position to lose every single pass.

Honestly, even on offense, the best throws are when the QB is 'hurried'. LOL! Those are actually on time passses! The fact that the vast majority of throws are like 3+ secs after the snap is sad (unless heavily pressured). Never in GLB2 have you seen the QB throw a pass when the receiver is covered, but /will/ be open the time the pass gets there. Much more often you see the QB throw to a receiver that is open if the pass arrived immediately, but by the time the ball arrives the receiver is covered well.

Secondary skills don't matter really, we even have guys with no man coverage at all, literally not one point, in man coverage doing the same things as guys heavily investing in man awareness and cov tech. It's a sad excuse for football.

Edited by -Phaytle- on Feb 11, 2014 20:33:02
 
E-A-G-L-E-S
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It's definitely frustrating. Mechanics of the game don't seem to make sense. Is it still a game of up for grabs at plateau?
 
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Personally, as someone who has played CB and both safety spots IRL (but mostly WR and FS, along with TE), I could offer a lot of help to the coding team. It just feels like they either don't know how to take the criticism or think they know better, even though they have no personal experience.

But then again, the things they code the secondary to do aren't even seen in NCAA or NFL games, so I have no idea where they are getting their examples to code them that way.

It's kinda like they don't even care about the defense.
Edited by -Phaytle- on Feb 11, 2014 20:58:40
 
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Originally posted by -Phaytle-
Personally, as someone who has played CB and both safety spots IRL (but mostly WR and FS, along with TE), I could offer a lot of help to the coding team. It just feels like they either don't know how to take the criticism or think they know better, even though they have no personal experience.

But then again, the things they code the secondary to do aren't even seen in NCAA or NFL games, so I have no idea where they are getting their examples to code them that way.

It's kinda like they don't even care about the defense.


you sitting on the bench doesnt mean you played.
 
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Originally posted by -Phaytle-


Secondary skills don't matter really, we even have guys with no man coverage at all, literally not one point, in man coverage doing the same things as guys heavily investing in man awareness and cov tech. It's a sad excuse for football.



What are you talking about? Open the builds of the joes with no man awr//cov tech.

 
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Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
you sitting on the bench doesnt mean you played.


Please, for the decency of others reading here, stop professing your stupidity. I'm not afraid to admit I was a SoCal DII recruited athlete in multiple sports after missing my entire junior year after tearing all the ligaments in my left ankle. I turned down those university scholarships at first because I was young and wanted to stay close to home. I was young. But I bet I can still run a 4.4 40, get a 36"+ vert, and play safety better than anyone on this forum. The only experience you have with a bench is looking at one. DOes this even deserve a response... I'm newer here so I'm probably wasting my time attempting to talk sense into this guy huh?
 
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Originally posted by Jampy2.0
What are you talking about? Open the builds of the joes with no man awr//cov tech.



I don't care if you or anyone else believes me or not. I'm not trying to leak any info about our D to anyone. I'm not fabricating shit out of thin air though when I say the guys on our team who have no/little man coverage skills who are put in man coverage act EXACTLY the same as those heavily invested in man cov/cov tech. The onlly expection /MAY/ be reaction run plays when put in man coverage. I haven't specifically looked for how quickly the man assignments react to run plays but from the multitude of games I've watched it seems they also react very similarly time-wise.
 
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Originally posted by -Phaytle-
Please, for the decency of others reading here, stop professing your stupidity. I'm not afraid to admit I was a SoCal DII recruited athlete in multiple sports after missing my entire junior year after tearing all the ligaments in my left ankle. I turned down those university scholarships at first because I was young and wanted to stay close to home. I was young. But I bet I can still run a 4.4 40, get a 36"+ vert, and play safety better than anyone on this forum. The only experience you have with a bench is looking at one. DOes this even deserve a response... I'm newer here so I'm probably wasting my time attempting to talk sense into this guy huh?


im sure you could big guy. just livin the dream. i could play in the NBA if i wanted to. i just didnt feel like leaving home to show king james how to actually throw down.
 
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