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Originally posted by Reaper Of The Dead
Now, I know it's not Defense. Have you guys tried making a pistol offense plays?

Adding new formations is pretty complicated, and a lot more work than adding a couple defensive plays. It would need to be thoroughly fleshed out with multiple plays and such. That, and...pistol is very similar to shotgun/singleback anyway.

Oh okay.

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=abhpw&s=8#.UvjD0F42yp0

It's a little dirty as far as the coloring goes. Not that great at editing color or pictures for that matter. But, you get the point.

Could even send one of the LB's to blitz if you wanted to.

Lineman stunts aren't fully implemented yet, but planning on working on them.

But...who is the under and who is the over?

DT would be the over, NT would be the under

Originally posted by Parab00n
I know, just frustrated with all the complaining about the spread rushing attack the last couple days. So I'm gonna make it a point to expose the weaknesses in those plays.

It's one thing to say spread rushing attack but what you mean is spread 4 WR dive/slam. Rushing involves some sort of balance inside/outside. If it wasn't easy to get yards, majority of people wouldn't be doing it.

Originally posted by Stobie
It's one thing to say spread rushing attack but what you mean is spread 4 WR dive/slam. Rushing involves some sort of balance inside/outside. If it wasn't easy to get yards, majority of people wouldn't be doing it.

Just because the majority of the people are doing it doesn't mean its broken. If something is broken that means it can't be stopped by anyone, this is not the case.

Would it be possible to have a C2 man under from the dime with the FS and SS lining up about 2 yard behind where the LOLB and ROLB would in a 4-3?

Originally posted by Parab00n
Just because the majority of the people are doing it doesn't mean its broken. If something is broken that means it can't be stopped by anyone, this is not the case.

When the majority of a gaming population go to a certain play because they know its 'easy' to get yards with the play then something is off. Am I saying its broken, no. Am I saying it can't be stopped, no. To each their own with the poison they choose, but what I am stating is that currently there isn't a viable defense that stops the rush on a broader scale that is relatively good for the pass, and in addition to the counter point there are not enough range of pass plays in the 4WR set that can be used to take advantage of said situation.

To my point sure, run the dive and if the defense wants to key on that and try to stop it so be it as I was able to hold one of the better rushing teams that use that play to less than 3 yards a carry, but what hurt me was the passing game from the resulted stops as I had to go all out to try and stop the run. I wasn't able to really choose a play that was good at either but rather either try to stop the pass all out or stop the run all out. If that is the way it's meant to be so be it, but I don't think that is the intent.

Originally posted by Stobie
When the majority of a gaming population go to a certain play because they know its 'easy' to get yards with the play then something is off. Am I saying its broken, no. Am I saying it can't be stopped, no. To each their own with the poison they choose, but what I am stating is that currently there isn't a viable defense that stops the rush on a broader scale that is relatively good for the pass, and in addition to the counter point there are not enough range of pass plays in the 4WR set that can be used to take advantage of said situation.

To my point sure, run the dive and if the defense wants to key on that and try to stop it so be it as I was able to hold one of the better rushing teams that use that play to less than 3 yards a carry, but what hurt me was the passing game from the resulted stops as I had to go all out to try and stop the run. I wasn't able to really choose a play that was good at either but rather either try to stop the pass all out or stop the run all out. If that is the way it's meant to be so be it, but I don't think that is the intent.

There can't be a play that is good at stopping both, if there was that would be the only play anyone would use.

I didn't say one play good at stopping both. I said, "there isn't a viable defense that stops the rush on a broader scale that is relatively good for the pass," because of the type of plays available to use you need to sell out to an extent to stop this particular rush which leaves pretty weak against the pass and visa versa. This is not the same in other formations which makes it unique. I am all for schemes and if your a spread team that rushes and passes from a spread formation that is just your niche, but on a given game defense is at a disadvantage when it comes to this formation.

glad we could clear that up

now lets move on

Can you run the wishbone on this game? Or the power I option?

Originally posted by Stobie
I didn't say one play good at stopping both. I said, "there isn't a viable defense that stops the rush on a broader scale that is relatively good for the pass," because of the type of plays available to use you need to sell out to an extent to stop this particular rush which leaves pretty weak against the pass and visa versa. This is not the same in other formations which makes it unique. I am all for schemes and if your a spread team that rushes and passes from a spread formation that is just your niche, but on a given game defense is at a disadvantage when it comes to this formation.

You already have a couple of those plays IMO, 1 Robber LB Spy out of the 3-2-6 is decent against both if you have a good NT. It leaves you weak against the 4 WR Under though. Also Cover 1 Lurk out of the Dime with a Run Stuffing DT & NT in the custom DC is probably the best play to stop the dive currently.

I have yet to see anything good about stopping a dive come from a 3 man line. That was particularly my frustration on the test server as well with a full superstar dline.