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Asheme
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Originally posted by Parab00n
This is the most frustrating part of this game right now, all of my DB's have at least 50+ Man/Zone Awareness and they rarely ever see the ball or WR on a Deep ball that is throw short. The biggest advantage you can have right now is to underthrow your WRs because they will go after the ball while the DBs just hang back. If I could do my QBs build over again for this season I would put 0 points into Pass Power because it actually lowers your chance of completing a pass at this stage.

yup. it's absurd.

i've remade my corners about 873953 times to try and find something that counteracts this. it doesn't exist. all my cbs are sitting around 65 man awr or higher, and it does nothing.
 
killershrew
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What I hate most about it is how it plays right into the hands of the teams that do nothing but throw deep on every down. The skewed probabilities of completing long passes makes it pretty useless to gameplan when you can just put deep pass 100 in every situation...
 
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GLB2's version of the I Slam?
 
Jampy2.0
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This is crazy,

I post a pass buff suggestion, 9 downvotes.

TT posts one, 3 upvotes.

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum/thread/5142243?page=1

idiots.
 
bhall43
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Saying "Hey Buff pass defense" probably doesn't make people happy when their QB's are completing 40-55% of their passes game to game. What Nib's has brought up though is a problem that exists even in Vet League however where a long pass is completed because the defender never acknowledges the underthrown ball and the WR makes the wide open underneath catch. Kiss Army on the test server beat me a couple times just because of that 5 WR Hail Mary play would just toss some 40 yard bomb and my defenders would just watch the guy catch the underthrown ball. Pretty annoying. This is also an old problem in GLB1 which if coding is similar may make some sense as to why it is now an existing problem here.
 
Jampy2.0
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^ I'm not sure what you are trying to say,

but this is definitely included in buffing pass D.
 
bhall43
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Originally posted by Jampy2.0
^ I'm not sure what you are trying to say,

but this is definitely included in buffing pass D.


I am saying your proposal got bad reviews because it felt less about fixing a problem and more about how you couldn't stop Sunday Funday from bullying you through the air.

The fix for this though is likely going to start a chain reaction of fixes for both offense and defense however.
 
Jampy2.0
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Then you didn't even read it, which would probably make sense,

buff is a buff. It includes everything I was talking about CBs not being able to keep up with WR change of directions...

But ok, I guess its a Sunday Funday thread,
like I said, everyone will complain about the pass D whether its in my thread, or in another,
idc who's thread its in, i just want it fixed.
 
Corndog
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A side note...testing new defensive AI is such a pain in the ass when my devbox takes like 40 minutes to sim a game lol
 
TxSteve
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maybe start a kickstarter so we can all contribute to buying you a new one?
 
Time Trial
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ITT: Someone believes that making a general post about fixing something is the same thing as posting a specific fix.

I think there is a big difference between posting:

Make pass defence better.

...and posting:

There is a problem with defenders not reacting to WRs cutting back to underthrown balls, we should do something about that specific problem.

If someone doesn't see the difference between a general buff and a specific suggestion for a fix, that's someone's problem.
Edited by Time Trial on Jan 20, 2014 11:54:35
 
killershrew
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Did something change with the def ai? we went from 50%+ completion to completing 7/34...
 
bhall43
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Ya someone probably ramped up the best defensive plays.
 
killershrew
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I´m not sure if I am just imagining things (fix my builds!) or is it now ever so slightly more difficult to complete a deep ball while completing a short pass is completely f-in impossible?
 
bhall43
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What you are seeing is defenders picking their skills up and DC's honing in on the few plays in the book that are pretty much pressure/sack plays. It hasn't become any more difficult for me to pass, just to get the pass off.
 
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