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I am inclined to agree that it was domination, when the opposing team is held to 60 yds of offense per quarter (not even the length of an average TD drive), and only two short touchdowns, that is defensive domination. The touchdowns were almost wholly in response to the Live Oak D playing a bit 'softer' in the second half as the game was tidily in hand, according to my analysis.

By spreading the ball around to 8 different recievers, JJ Johnson dominated the Dublin secondary, and had his pick of targets.

Just because Live Oak didn't blow out the score doesn't mean you weren't dominated. I refer to Derek's statement that perhaps a look at the play by play is in order to recognize the magnitude of the Live Oak Eagle's handling of the Dublin Dragoon's.

Originally posted by AnotherLawyer
Sorry to upset everyone's predictions.

Not to sound like sour grapes: Live Oak had a good game plan, but it wasn't a domination. Two big plays on Live Oak's first two drives in the first quarter made the difference, including on the biggest one where our CB defending the play was held up from behind by the trailing WR. It's a glitch I've seen too many times. But after those two drives it was dead even.

Still, the difference is what counts.

It was a good game by Live Oak, but let's not get carried away with this "domination" stuff. Live Oak kicked field goals for 3 quarters. And one TD happened because of a hold or clipping. That's not exactly domination.


Sure sounds like sour grapes to me and it looked to me more like the CB was going for the interception and got burnt. Might want to check his settings. Both of those TD's were clean.

You might want to look at the punting/punt return numbers, overall each punt swang the field position about 10 yards in our favor. That is huge when two teams are so close. Not to mention, with our new integrated scouting, I knew practically each gameplan you had from each game in the past based of plays run and what not. I knew more about your team than you knew and that is a promise!

Just admit you took it an old fashion beating.

I don't know if I'd call it 'domination'. Live Oak only had 2.2 ypc which was lower than Dublin's, both teams had 6 hurries and 1 sack, and a 361-248 yardage differential isn't really huge. That 72 yd pass play wasn't some bad corner getting burned, the ball was thrown right into the two of em as they were on top of each other and the WR came out on top. Kind of fluky but it happens. But it did happen and it counts, so you have to consider that.

I mean we outgained Paris 360-49 and I wouldn't really consider that domination, at least relative to some of our other games. http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=42309

Their OL held up fairly well, which I know sounds weird considering they gave up 6 sacks but that's not too bad in one of our games. They're a good team and I'm just happy to come out of that game with a win. Live Oak should be too.

And that 59.5 yard fg...christ.

Our back-up HB played more than our starter. The stats went downhill once we got up. I told ya'll we never set it to run the score up. If we up by 14-21, we always have back-ups getting more snaps. If we were like some teams, we could have made this a 30 point game by leaving the starters in. We are not, and won't ever be that team.

I would like to apologize for the complete tirade that is going to continue. LOL. This is a team that went 2-14 last season and has yet to beat a solid team, a GOOD team at that. One with a winning record. The over-excitement is going to happen. 15 points over this good of a team, looks like 100 to some of us who are not used to winning. That being said, my apology is likely no good because I will continue to argue the fact.

Also, if the gameplanner for Dublin wants to message me to find out what I did defensively and offensively and what I THOUGHT their gameplan was due to prior knowledge, feel free so. It will be good for the both of us.

That's cool. Say what you have to say. I didn't mean it as sour grapes, but I knew that was how it would sound. Coming out and calling a 29-14 win a "domination" is just poor sportsmanship, especially when Live Oak's offense couldn't do anything against Dublin's defense for 3 quarters.

Live Oak outgained Dublin by 28 yards per quarter, but almost all of that came on those 2 TD plays. I was wrong about which play the hold was on. That was on the 23-yard TD, not the long one. You're right about the long TD. The CB was clearly going for the INT and got burned.

Still, domination is taking it a little too far. Live Oak dominated the first quarter, yes. Dublin outgained Live Oak on offense for the rest of the game and outscored Live Oak for the rest of the game. Live Oak kicked field goals for 3 quarters.

I'll admit that Dublin took a beating in the first quarter. And I promise you didn't know our game plan unless someone from our team gave it to you. Live Oak did exactly what we expected for 3 quarters.

Hell, the more I talk, the more it sounds like sour grapes. So...congratulations on the win. Live Oak played a good, solid game and was able to take the ball away when Dublin was making a comeback. Kudos to you fellas.

Originally posted by derek1222
I have a secret weapon now too. Oh I love my secret weapon!

I have to admit, that is pretty badass. Too bad no one else can figure it out

Originally posted by AnotherLawyer
That's cool. Say what you have to say. I didn't mean it as sour grapes, but I knew that was how it would sound. Coming out and calling a 29-14 win a "domination" is just poor sportsmanship, especially when Live Oak's offense couldn't do anything against Dublin's defense for 3 quarters.

Live Oak outgained Dublin by 28 yards per quarter, but almost all of that came on those 2 TD plays. I was wrong about which play the hold was on. That was on the 23-yard TD, not the long one. You're right about the long TD. The CB was clearly going for the INT and got burned.

Still, domination is taking it a little too far. Live Oak dominated the first quarter, yes. Dublin outgained Live Oak on offense for the rest of the game and outscored Live Oak for the rest of the game. Live Oak kicked field goals for 3 quarters.

I'll admit that Dublin took a beating in the first quarter. And I promise you didn't know our game plan unless someone from our team gave it to you. Live Oak did exactly what we expected for 3 quarters.

Hell, the more I talk, the more it sounds like sour grapes. So...congratulations on the win. Live Oak played a good, solid game and was able to take the ball away when Dublin was making a comeback. Kudos to you fellas.

The first quarter was domination, and then our backups started getting PT after we had a 17 point lead. And either way, field goals are still worth something, especially when your 5/5.

Originally posted by derek1222


Also, if the gameplanner for Dublin wants to message me to find out what I did defensively and offensively and what I THOUGHT their gameplan was due to prior knowledge, feel free so. It will be good for the both of us.
I'm sure he'll feel appropriately privileged to have an audience with Bill Belichick.

Dragoon, if you want to contest whether this game is a domination or not, consider this:

2.2 yards per carry, thats crap, however, our starting HB had 3.5 YPC on 20 rushes. All the rushes did was make your defense stay on the field longer and that is all that is needed. The most plays for one person on our defense had was 61, you had multiple players being in 60+ plays, 70+ plays, and even one in 82 plays. Your offense got in range of a field goal only three times. One missed FG. The two drives, you scored touchdowns in. Kudos on the TDs but even without the two TDs in the first quarter, we would have won. The fact that you couldn't convert yards into scoring + your turn overs screwed you over and you have absolutely no basis to say that this was a close game. We outplayed you. Period.

Originally posted by derek1222
Our back-up HB played more than our starter. The stats went downhill once we got up. I told ya'll we never set it to run the score up. If we up by 14-21, we always have back-ups getting more snaps. If we were like some teams, we could have made this a 30 point game by leaving the starters in. We are not, and won't ever be that team.

I would like to apologize for the complete tirade that is going to continue. LOL. This is a team that went 2-14 last season and has yet to beat a solid team, a GOOD team at that. One with a winning record. The over-excitement is going to happen. 15 points over this good of a team, looks like 100 to some of us who are not used to winning. That being said, my apology is likely no good because I will continue to argue the fact.

Also, if the gameplanner for Dublin wants to message me to find out what I did defensively and offensively and what I THOUGHT their gameplan was due to prior knowledge, feel free so. It will be good for the both of us.

Hey I congratulate you for a good game. I thought we had a good shot at this one but you beat us fair and square. Nice game by your guys all around.

Originally posted by bburger991
Originally posted by derek1222

I have a secret weapon now too. Oh I love my secret weapon!

I have to admit, that is pretty badass. Too bad he won't share it with anyone. >_>

Yeah, it is bad when you can't see or understand how he performs so well. Oh well.

And...

Ok Ok... no more arguing. It was a good game but not a blow out and not close. Just a game that one team won and it was decided early in.

I just hope we can keep it up somehow.

Originally posted by tyrant91101
Dragoon, if you want to contest whether this game is a domination or not, consider this:

2.2 yards per carry, thats crap, however, our starting HB had 3.5 YPC on 20 rushes. All the rushes did was make your defense stay on the field longer and that is all that is needed. The most plays for one person on our defense had was 61, you had multiple players being in 60+ plays, 70+ plays, and even one in 82 plays. Your offense got in range of a field goal only three times. One missed FG. The two drives, you scored touchdowns in. Kudos on the TDs but even without the two TDs in the first quarter, we would have won. The fact that you couldn't convert yards into scoring + your turn overs screwed you over and you have absolutely no basis to say that this was a close game. We outplayed you. Period.

Er...what? I said it wasn't a domination. I said you guys took it to us in the first quarter and then it was even, unfortunately in large part due to our turnovers. Live Oak played a good game. I never disputed that.

So understand this: I'm here to defend my team, not insult yours. Live Oak had an outstanding first quarter. After that it was almost as even as it could get. But domination it wasn't. And that's why I spoke up. Your guys came in here thumping their chests like they just won 100-0, talking about total domination. As one of the leaders of my team, I can't let that fly unchecked. Yes it's true that without the 2 TD in the first quarter you still would have won, but the score is 15-14.

I'm happy for you that you won. Unhappy that it was us. Congratulations for the third or fourth time. Live Oak played a good game. Good luck the rest of the season.

Hey AnotherLawyer, I just ask that you read my posts more than the rest of my team's posts. LOL. I let my boastful comments come out first then came back down to Earth to discuss it rationally. It was not domination as I stated but I do not think it was close, as I also stated. It was just a game where one team jumped out early and took care of business the rest of the way.

Case closed.

Please?

The next game is in a couple of days, time is ticking. Both of us must get back to gameplanning so hopefully we can just nod our heads, shake hands at mid-field and prepare. I wish you best of luck and hope you get into the playoffs.

Good game Dragoons. I wouldnt call the entire game was a domination, but the first half was as close to a domination as it could get. 23-0 at half is pretty. You were put into a hole that you couldnt come out of. We have it set where we wont run up the score, so like derek said, our back ups started playing more.

You guys are a good team, and I expect you to make the playoffs.

Our team is only improving. We finally have an OC after not having a capable one the entire time before that. We hope to play better against the better teams, as we are currently only 1-2 against top competition. We hope that improves.

Good luck for the rest of season!

HAHAHA getting back from vacation and reading this is just too good. its just the cherry on the cake. LOL. i love it.

"1-2 against the top competition" no offense everybody else that we've beat.