Edited by IdRatherFlyFish on Apr 14, 2011 20:40:04 (2nd Responder)
Forum > Discuss GLB Issues With Catch22 > ISSUES DETERMINED NOT BUGS > More Proof WR screen is pooched - ISSUE DETERMINED NOT A BUG - #662
Androth
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Originally posted by tragula
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy/09000d5d81b9f183/QB-Manning-to-WR-Manningham-25-yd-pass-TD
Likely a bug.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy/09000d5d81b9f183/QB-Manning-to-WR-Manningham-25-yd-pass-TD
Likely a bug.
Pwned
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Okay, we need some more info on this topic.
Need the build info of the TE: http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4497443
It appears he's way too slow to block the CB on this play and the CB does a great job of breaking up the screen.
I don't see why every screen should always be a complete pass..
My guess is if the TE is fast enough (so we'd think) he's probably rocking streaky and slow starter and while failing his streaky roll, and the negative effects of Slow Starter (OP play was in 1st quarter) that he likely took a big hit to speed/agility and just couldn't make the play.
What do you think?
Need the build info of the TE: http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4497443
It appears he's way too slow to block the CB on this play and the CB does a great job of breaking up the screen.
I don't see why every screen should always be a complete pass..
My guess is if the TE is fast enough (so we'd think) he's probably rocking streaky and slow starter and while failing his streaky roll, and the negative effects of Slow Starter (OP play was in 1st quarter) that he likely took a big hit to speed/agility and just couldn't make the play.
What do you think?
Pwned
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Originally posted by AlBarsch
Casual Pro:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1599185&pbp_id=8728184
I take this as evidence that the screen pass does work?
Casual Pro:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1599185&pbp_id=8728184
I take this as evidence that the screen pass does work?
joemalaka
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Originally posted by The Avenger
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1641571&pbp_id=10211166
Casual Basic Ai defense busts a WR screen up with ease, DE not even in passive at all.
Please don't tell me this is working as intended, there is 100% no way to improve this if a Basic Ai is busting this up before it even gets off.
Bug
Great examples.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1641571&pbp_id=10211166
Casual Basic Ai defense busts a WR screen up with ease, DE not even in passive at all.
Please don't tell me this is working as intended, there is 100% no way to improve this if a Basic Ai is busting this up before it even gets off.
Bug
Great examples.
AlBarsch
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Originally posted by Pwned IRL
I take this as evidence that the screen pass does work?
Yes, I'm always confused when someone posts one fricking example of a play and makes a sweeping generalization that the play doesn't work. (Not that one example of it working is any better)
I take this as evidence that the screen pass does work?
Yes, I'm always confused when someone posts one fricking example of a play and makes a sweeping generalization that the play doesn't work. (Not that one example of it working is any better)
Edited by AlBarsch on Apr 13, 2011 18:33:57
Originally posted by The Avenger
Please don't tell me this is working as intended, there is 100% no way to improve this if a Basic Ai is busting this up before it even gets off.
Ummm, if this is your only example you're making a very bad argument. To me it looks like the TE got in position to make the block but didn't have the blocking skill to hold it long enough to let the play develop. Or maybe your QB doesn't have the strength to make the throw. Could be lots of potential problems.
Please don't tell me this is working as intended, there is 100% no way to improve this if a Basic Ai is busting this up before it even gets off.
Ummm, if this is your only example you're making a very bad argument. To me it looks like the TE got in position to make the block but didn't have the blocking skill to hold it long enough to let the play develop. Or maybe your QB doesn't have the strength to make the throw. Could be lots of potential problems.
IdRatherFlyFish
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Working as intended 
Seriously -- tell me why this could not have happened on this play:
The CB was blitzing from the get-go .. he jumps up and deflects the ball.
Solid defense IMHO -- and if you disagree with me, what we've seen here so far is no where near "proof", and certainly not enough evidence at this time to call this a bug.
Fish
Seriously -- tell me why this could not have happened on this play:
The CB was blitzing from the get-go .. he jumps up and deflects the ball.
Solid defense IMHO -- and if you disagree with me, what we've seen here so far is no where near "proof", and certainly not enough evidence at this time to call this a bug.
Fish
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Honestly, I dont think that is a bug. Looks like a CB making a play on it.
I am going to start it thru the process and mark it as not likely a bug.
I am going to start it thru the process and mark it as not likely a bug.
Originally posted by IdRatherFlyFish
Working as intended
Seriously -- tell me why this could not have happened on this play:
The CB was blitzing from the get-go .. he jumps up and deflects the ball.
Solid defense IMHO -- and if you disagree with me, what we've seen here so far is no where near "proof", and certainly not enough evidence at this time to call this a bug.
Fish
CB's can't blitz in Casual.
But yea, i have no other example
Working as intended
Seriously -- tell me why this could not have happened on this play:
The CB was blitzing from the get-go .. he jumps up and deflects the ball.
Solid defense IMHO -- and if you disagree with me, what we've seen here so far is no where near "proof", and certainly not enough evidence at this time to call this a bug.
Fish
CB's can't blitz in Casual.
But yea, i have no other example
Sometimes a defender just sees a play early and beats his man. Even if this were a poorly designed play, this still would not be a bug.
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