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Originally posted by Dr. Showtime
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fml

oooh oh ohh, i can read and would again

Originally posted by Dr. Showtime
Originally posted by Ubasstards

Originally posted by tjking82


http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread_list.pl?team_id=997

Nope.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4513825

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fml

probably a good reason for that

Originally posted by MadCow DTD
oooh oh ohh, i can read and would again

ITS AN EPIC THREAD AND SHOWTIME IS MISSING OUT

lolshowtime

Originally posted by Timetoshine-Beta
I didn't realize ESL/MPHD was buggy

My thoughts exactly....RNG arguably, but not buggy.

is this the complain about things when your team lost thread?

Originally posted by avgbrad
is this the complain about things when your team lost thread?

he won. but he also lost. i confused.

Originally posted by tjking82
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1582311&pbp_id=13876387 - Watch the ROLB. Even though he appears to be every bit as fast as the receiver, he decides not to tackle the guy for 45 yards. WORKING AS INTENDED

He takes a sharp cut right as the ball is caught, rather than take more of a curved path, which is dumb.

Originally posted by tjking82
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1582311&pbp_id=13878147 - Watch the QB's vision line. He is unable to switch off his first read, and for a few seconds isn't looking anywhere at all. If you think this is merely a graphics problem, watch the flash version and you'll see that the target disappears off the HB. The QB isn't looking anywhere, he just takes the play off. Sack. WORKING AS INTENDED.

Bug filed: http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4145395
bhall obviously feels that the frozen lasers are worth the risk of having certain routes not in the progression, and who is to argue with the WL champ OC?

Originally posted by tjking82
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1582311&pbp_id=13881454 - Again we see a defender refusing to take a reasonable pursuit angle. In this case the CB is not as fast as the WR so obviously the only chance he has to make the tackle is to take a sharp pursuit angle. Instead he runs alongside the WR until he gets blocked, never trying to tackle him. WORKING AS INTENDED

He certainly looked like he could get right over and make an immediate diving tackle rather than bail out downfield.
I wonder if Closing Speed is a factor in these pursuit angles. Within 5 yards it won't activate and maybe then the defender is actually slower than the receiver so he can't calculate a good angle. Then further away he resumes chasing him down. That's probably not what's going on here but just a thought.

Anyway really you named 2 issues and one is already a filed bug.

Originally posted by NiborRis
The run was on 3rd down - I'm pretty sure that most QBs IRL will not spike the ball on a 4th down play. Maybe the OAI should have been set to kick a FG instead of the run, but they went for it.

The defensive pathing is obviously an issue, and always has been, but at this point it's more of a design flaw than a bug - defenders don't have good football logic pursuit and containment built into them. The vision line thing seems wonky for sure, haven't seen anything like that before.



(Probably not that big of a deal but ...)

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1582311&pbp_id=13879031

That run was on 3rd down (which is actually a viable play call in the NFL) but he picked up the first down so the QB doesn't have to worry about spiking the ball on 4th down. He'd be spiking the ball on first down. What happens after that in an NFL game varies. Down 34 to 7, most teams/QBs are going to want to go for the TD. A lot of coaches tend to be conservative so that probably ends in a FG instead.

If they don't try and pick up the TD (Payton/Brees mentality) then there are a lot of options. 19 seconds on the clock, no timeouts and it's running now. Say that play takes 4 seconds off the clock then you have to worry about getting back to the line to spike the ball. Since it only advanced one yard, even the big fat lineman shouldn't have much trouble getting back to LOS quickly although, on that play, there are 2 WRs at/in the end zone. Even then they should be able to get back to the line and set within 7 seconds. Probably a little faster. With that, 11 seconds run off the clock so the offense spikes the ball with 8 seconds on the clock. That's more than enough time to take a shot in the endzone. 5 seconds would be cutting it real close but even that's possible.

QB gets sacked and the half is over.
QB throws a pick then kills himself in the locker room at halftime or something.
Incomplete pass could mean 4-6 seconds run off the clock but the clock stops so you can kick a FG. (and probably end the half)
QB takes too long to throw and runs off the 8 seconds, throws an incomplete pass and ends the half like a dumbass.
QB throws touchdown and gets his team a little closer before the halftime.

Any of those things coulda/shoulda/woulda happened but the sim isn't perfect. Of course some dots have 120 speed and still look a little slow because others have more than 140. I asked Madden and he said that's crazy, Devin Hester only has 100 speed. Then he offered me a deep-fried twinkie.

Originally posted by tautology
My thoughts exactly....RNG arguably, but not buggy.

rng my depth chart for sure.

as much as im annoyed at bugs....the bugs you are calling happened to me all season....i will be the first guy all season to put it in Borts face....but he needs to want to care....

Originally posted by NiborRis
The run was on 3rd down - I'm pretty sure that most QBs IRL will not spike the ball on a 4th down play. Maybe the OAI should have been set to kick a FG instead of the run, but they went for it.

especially with that tremendous kicker..

LOL
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1582311&pbp_id=13878147

That is awesome...it's like he had a stroke...

Originally posted by Ubasstards
poor coverage

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1579205&pbp_id=13890067

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

'fixed' LB coverage is still broken:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1582311&pbp_id=13875915

ESL weren't the only ones to benefit out of shitty momentum

Originally posted by tjking82
So we've gone 20 seasons, and we're at the most important game of the highest level. Bort, Catch et al have had plenty of time to see how things work at this level and to fix problems. We have a whole forum that (purportedly) solves bugs.

So surely the Season 20 WL final wouldn't be buggy as shit, right?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1582311&pbp_id=13876387 - Watch the ROLB. Even though he appears to be every bit as fast as the receiver, he decides not to tackle the guy for 45 yards. WORKING AS INTENDED

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1582311&pbp_id=13878147 - Watch the QB's vision line. He is unable to switch off his first read, and for a few seconds isn't looking anywhere at all. If you think this is merely a graphics problem, watch the flash version and you'll see that the target disappears off the HB. The QB isn't looking anywhere, he just takes the play off. Sack. WORKING AS INTENDED.

Edited out end of half....lol

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1582311&pbp_id=13881454 - Again we see a defender refusing to take a reasonable pursuit angle. In this case the CB is not as fast as the WR so obviously the only chance he has to make the tackle is to take a sharp pursuit angle. Instead he runs alongside the WR until he gets blocked, never trying to tackle him. WORKING AS INTENDED

This is a disgusting product 20 seasons in. I hate the fact that the most important game at the highest level was largely decided on buggy shit. Maybe someday Bort and Catch will make this game worth spending money on.

Good to see 2 former cobra's scoring TDs in 2 of those 3 replays. Cobra Kai never dies.