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Originally posted by Triathlon Dude
here we go....

Another play where 2 players are juke/head faked by the HB....

http://www.goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1587295&pbp_id=1683836&flash=1

It is about midway through the play where the CB is about to tackle the HB.....

At that exact same point, the FS starts moving in the opposit direction too.

It could be blamed on the WR, but the WR is coming to the CB not going toward the FS.

At least this is my thought on this.....

The CB starts falling down at the exact same time the FS starts moving backwards, hence the idea that both are faked out on the same move......


faked dots shrink
 
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Originally posted by bug03
faked dots shrink


this.

Check out the OP one frame at a time to see what we're looking for here.
 
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Originally posted by TruthHammer
this.

Check out the OP one frame at a time to see what we're looking for here.


I did, they look like they shrunk at the same time, but it also looks like they got stuck together. Either way, if Bort says two dot's don't get faked by the same fake then it shouldn't have happened unless a dot can head fake and juke on the same tick... do we know if this is possible?
 
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Originally posted by bug03
I did, they look like they shrunk at the same time, but it also looks like they got stuck together. Either way, if Bort says two dot's don't get faked by the same fake then it shouldn't have happened unless a dot can head fake and juke on the same tick... do we know if this is possible?


Sorry, bug. My comment was meant to be directed toward Triathlon Dude.
 
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Originally posted by bug03
I did, they look like they shrunk at the same time, but it also looks like they got stuck together. Either way, if Bort says two dot's don't get faked by the same fake then it shouldn't have happened unless a dot can head fake and juke on the same tick... do we know if this is possible?[/QUOTE]

 
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Originally posted by Mike Rogers
Bump, this has been sitting a long time.

Due to Catch's post its been left open longer than most, so moving back into GLB Main with a request for more examples, before this is locked due to process.


NMI threads should really be left here. I guarantee they'd get more examples and get quicker replies.
 
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Originally posted by bug03
I did, they look like they shrunk at the same time, but it also looks like they got stuck together. Either way, if Bort says two dot's don't get faked by the same fake then it shouldn't have happened unless a dot can head fake and juke on the same tick... do we know if this is possible?


Originally posted by Changelog

July 3, 2009
- Ensure Head Fake and Juke abilities only allow one defender to be faked per tick.


The way the changelog is written, I'd say it shouldn't be possible.
 
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Originally posted by TruthHammer
The way the changelog is written, I'd say it shouldn't be possible.


The way I read it says Head fake can fake 1 and juke can fake 1, nothing says juke and headfake can't be on the same tick ie spin/powerthru

edit: a spin can break two tackles at once btw
Edited by bug03 on Mar 16, 2011 14:07:15
 
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Originally posted by bug03
The way I read it says Head fake can fake 1 and juke can fake 1, nothing says juke and headfake can't be on the same tick ie spin/powerthru

edit: a spin can break two tackles at once btw


It could definitely be interpreted that way, but the fact that Catch weighed in and said we needed more replays instead of just shutting it down himself could be taken as tacit agreement that the replay provided was not working as intended.
 
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Come on man.

Damn the changelog. It was a bad change way back then. There is absolutely no reason that two defenders can't be thrown off by the same fake.
 
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Originally posted by Triathlon Dude

here we go....

Another play where 2 players are juke/head faked by the HB....

http://www.goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1587295&pbp_id=1683836&flash=1

It is about midway through the play where the CB is about to tackle the HB.....

At that exact same point, the FS starts moving in the opposit direction too.

It could be blamed on the WR, but the WR is coming to the CB not going toward the FS.

At least this is my thought on this.....

The CB starts falling down at the exact same time the FS starts moving backwards, hence the idea that both are faked out on the same move......


faked dots shrink


then why does the FS start going the other way???????
 
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Originally posted by Triathlon Dude
then why does the FS start going the other way???????


vision bro
 
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1601593&pbp_id=4390638

tick by tick they fall at the same time
 
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Originally posted by blitz39
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1601593&pbp_id=4390638

tick by tick they fall at the same time


Yep, good call. I'd like to have a couple more, just to give the testers and developers a little more data to work with, but it certainly looks like a bug right now.
 
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