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mingo23
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Originally posted by jdbolick
Because imagine if you're using a LB to drop into a deep zone, knowing that you need to choose immediately for him to have any chance of getting there to make a play on the targeted WR or TE. Wouldn't you be pissed if he dropped all the way back to that zone if it was a run? And yeah, it works the same way for DEs.


Well TBH I would be Pissed it that happen when I had him set to Deep Under Strong Third but when I set him to Go there Immediately he should just go there. That would be the Point of Immediately. When I set him that way it is because I don't want him to worry about reading the Run play at all I just want him to get where I tell him. Now Vice a Versa goes for the Deep Under Strong Third call, He should read run then get to where he is supposed to be.
Edited by Catch22 on Aug 3, 2011 01:31:19
Edited by Pwned IRL on Feb 21, 2011 08:09:38 (2nd Response - VERIFIED)
Edited by Androth on Feb 20, 2011 14:23:31 (LIKELY A BUG)
 
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I also DC this team the Daytona Blackhawks and the same Zone Immediately type of play should have worked like this

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1524393&pbp_id=9416984

To me this is exactly what I in-vision when I tell a player to go to this Zone Immediately no vision check just get there.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1524393&pbp_id=9417019

Same thing happens here with the DE's going exactly where they should be with no vision check. so why in the OP does he have to read something before getting to the Zone Immediately?
Edited by mingo23 on Feb 11, 2011 09:44:31
Edited by mingo23 on Feb 11, 2011 09:42:04
 
Androth
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Originally posted by mingo23

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1521795&pbp_id=7136665
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1521749&pbp_id=8339243
I will post more replays as I find them


In the first one, it looks like he tries to get there, but the TE grabs him otw.

In the second, he seems to be watching the HB, but idk why he is doing that if he is going to zone.

We still need more of this happening incorrectly to try and establish some kind of pattern.

 
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1521808&pbp_id=11307645
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1521808&pbp_id=11309301
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1521808&pbp_id=11309456 Different Defensive Alignment but both OLB's are set to Zone Immediately
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1521808&pbp_id=11309331 Works right in this Replay both OLB's go straight to their respective Zones
http://i661.photobucket.com/albums/uu335/mingo-subia/4-4proLBflats.jpg

another Zone Immediately by both OLB's here but LOLB does not go there he looks like he is reading something when he should not be reading but going straight to his Zone.

Edited by mingo23 on Feb 17, 2011 15:18:45
Edited by mingo23 on Feb 17, 2011 15:13:26
Edited by mingo23 on Feb 17, 2011 15:11:40
Edited by mingo23 on Feb 17, 2011 15:11:05
Edited by mingo23 on Feb 17, 2011 14:54:38
 
Androth
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I am leaning towards Truthhammers assessment atm. It seems very much like them failing to go to zone is because they "read run". I'm still undecided if it is intentional. You've definitely given us enough info now though. Thank you.
 
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Yea that is what I am thinking as well, but if they are told Zone Immediately they should just go and not read anything. If Set to any of the other 3 Zone settings ( Deep, Med, Shallow ) they should read and react to the run or pass then go to their Zone.

Thanks
 
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It seems to me that since the player can achieve this zone without "zone immediately" that this setting should have some purpose.

LIKELY A BUG
 
Pwned
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The real question here is whether or not its working as intended.

We didn't code the game of course so getting that answer isn't simple.

I think to be safe, based off what I have seen it's best to send it though.

Marking as VERIFIED.
Edited by Pwned IRL on Feb 21, 2011 08:07:32
 
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1577465&pbp_id=12450303
In this replay if the LOLB had gotten to his Flat Strong Zone Immediately he would have forced the TE/FB to either pick him up or move on instead to the next level thus making the runner either have to go back a few yards to get around it or cut in and go behind it.

another replay just for good measure.

Just my opinion and yea we did not code the game but I think it would make sense to clear up the difference.

Immediately should mean exactly that with no reading of the play being done until he gets to his spot.

Zone (Deep, Med, Shallow) should have a read then drop action to it.

Again JMO..
Edited by mingo23 on Feb 21, 2011 14:10:55
 
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I'm gonna agree with this one. Plenty of info, and it seems like the "immediately" isn't quite as immediate as it should be.

Immediate should either be "immediate for pass" or "immediate" no matter what the type of play.
 
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Assigned bug.
 
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This is working as intended and is not a bug.
 
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