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VolBrian
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Once I confirm what the OP's dots were supposed to be doing, I'll compile some examples and will include yours.
 
Farlig
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Perfect. Here are some more examples:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1445267&pbp_id=8235509 CB4 on TE>Zone
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1445267&pbp_id=8243373 LOLB on TE>HB Strong (why the huge back peddle before the TE even gets going)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1445267&pbp_id=8243770 LOLB on TE>HB Strong (different LB this time)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1445347&pbp_id=7631889 LOLB on TE>Blitz


 
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Originally posted by VolBrian
Are you using auto-adjust?

Have you run the play through the tester?

Check those two things and then I'll test it for you with access, but it will be Monday morning before I can get to it.

Needs more info for now


Indeed I have been using auto adjust set to max.

what tester are you referring to?
 
Bloodfart
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been happening since forever if you set the dot that covers the TE back 10 yards he'll sometimes keep that distance and make no effort to close the gap. it's a bug, but don't expect a fix.
 
Clarka3
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Originally posted by Bloodfart
been happening since forever if you set the dot that covers the TE back 10 yards he'll sometimes keep that distance and make no effort to close the gap. it's a bug, but don't expect a fix.


sure, but it looked like in other instances the player didn't give that cushion- which is why I posted it in bugs. It was the only occurrence in that game. Had it happened repeatedly, I would have changed my Play.
 
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yeah, I said 'sometimes'. Had it happen to dots set to pass , balanced and run focus so I doubt that's it. And I got no idea why the mod would ask about the auto adjust, which shouldn't affect a play, just which play gets called. Expect to be told to fix ur bild or moar vision something.
 
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haha thanks for the head's up.
 
VolBrian
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Originally posted by Clarka3
Indeed I have been using auto adjust set to max.

what tester are you referring to?


Run the exact situation from your replay through the Defensive AI tester. Once you have done so and are positive the play is as intended, I'll need access to your DAI for testing and to verify the play.
 
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Originally posted by Clarka3
crap, sorry that wasn't intended. let me go hunting for it.


http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1469640&pbp_id=8456765


The Lolb was lined up at least 8 yards off the TE, what do you expect? Certainly you wouldn't want your LBer to charge up to cover the TE at the snap because if he did, the TE would run right past him on a streak.
 
Clarka3
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Originally posted by Mstr_October
The Lolb was lined up at least 8 yards off the TE, what do you expect? Certainly you wouldn't want your LBer to charge up to cover the TE at the snap because if he did, the TE would run right past him on a streak.


No, but all of the other instances, the LB waited or at least stepped forward, not charge back away.


Originally posted by VolBrian
Run the exact situation from your replay through the Defensive AI tester. Once you have done so and are positive the play is as intended, I'll need access to your DAI for testing and to verify the play.



GM offer sent. let me know what else you need.
Edited by Clarka3 on Dec 12, 2010 10:42:18
 
GMathiasf
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How can anybody that watches dots ever not know this is an issue sometimes?
 
VolBrian
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Ok, I tested the OP's tactics and the AI is correct and the LOLB should have been manned up on the TE. No clue why he gives such a big cushion.

Since I've verified the play call and tactics, and we have some more examples courtesy of Farliq, I'm gonna go ahead and send this to QA. That cushion is way too big.

Likely a bug - sent to QA
 
madmatg
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Originally posted by Clarka3
crap, sorry that wasn't intended. let me go hunting for it.


http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1469640&pbp_id=8456765


you should put this in the OP
 
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I'm saying not a bug on this one.

All looks like perfectly acceptable behavior.

Odds are the OLB doesn't have the agility to cover his speed so thus gives a little cushion. He may also be reading that it is a pass and thus his first tick is back instead of forward for a run play.

Not seeing really anything that determines as bug.
 
Farlig
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Originally posted by robponce
I'm saying not a bug on this one.

All looks like perfectly acceptable behavior.

Odds are the OLB doesn't have the agility to cover his speed so thus gives a little cushion. He may also be reading that it is a pass and thus his first tick is back instead of forward for a run play.

Not seeing really anything that determines as bug.


I've put the Agility of the dots in question in my original post below.

Originally posted by Farlig
Perfect. Here are some more examples:

1) http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1445267&pbp_id=8235509 CB4 on TE>Zone CB Agility = 90
2) http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1445267&pbp_id=8243373 LOLB on TE>HB Strong (why the huge back peddle before the TE even gets going) LB Agility = 80
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1445267&pbp_id=8243770 LOLB on TE>HB Strong (different LB this time) LB Agility = 75
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1445347&pbp_id=7631889 LOLB on TE>Blitz LB Agility = 80



Also found an exampe of the play and dots where this gap doesn't happen:

2) http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1445285&pbp_id=10079355

 
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