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Originally posted by sigepmagicmike
Originally posted by jkid2

It would actually last 40 days not until day 40, so that's why they had no problem introducing it now because it would outlast the season.

That is exactly what I had an issue with. You are now dropping 100 flex for 20 days rather than 40 for the Pee Wees all be it, it does last 40 days but pee wees get retired on day 41 so yeah you only get 20 days out of it. On the other side of this for teams like ours, we are having to drop 600-900 flex depending for CE'd dots.

you're not dropping 600-900 flex on it, man. you get 70% back from retirement.

100/270 =.37
7/16=.43

If you look at it from a flex/game standpoint (if people are springing for rentable now they're getting 7 regular season games with it), its pretty even. If we extrapolate out to 11/20 (to account for teams getting to the championship game) its still .55. No one is getting fucked, you're still getting exactly what you paid for and what you knew you were going to be paying for at the beginning of the season when you clicked the buy button.

Just because other people are getting a good deal doesn't mean you're getting a bad one. You're bitching about a sale coming out after you've been enjoying the benefits of your CEQ (as an example, it could be a flat screen tv, a new car, etc) for weeks now. It sucks knowing you could've gotten it for cheaper, but you were ok with the cost at the time and that shouldn't change now. You're not going to find any retail store that will give you money back for buying something before it went on sale.

Actually yes companies do this. Take Staples for instance: if you find a lower price anywhere else on a new identical item, just show them the lower price and that will match it. OR within 14 of your purchase they will give you the difference.

Simply put I could care less how many people buy CE today, tomorrow or the rest of the season. Let's say I have 10 Pee Wee players and I want just normal CE for them that costs me 6000 flex at the beginning of the season. Now you take a guy who owns a team by himself who can buy in the middle of the season for all 55 players for 5500. Let's say I wanted to tree boost my CE dots that 9000 total it costs

Also, now for my CE I am paying 180 or in cases where I tree boost 270 flex. People now come in mid season and get it for 100 flex. How is this fair to me when my intentions are the same as the people buy now? Also, the people buy now for the +6 stats are just slightly over paying. Its only 10 flex per CE considering the mileage you will get from it this season but I hope this makes sense as to why I am upset about it being done mid season.

I want to reiterate that I am pleased to see this happen and I think its the best thing they have done for Pee Wee in a while. I also do not care who buys it right now as I could care less who has it and doesn't have it as I am all for us having an even playing field. Outside of Pee Wee I pushed to get rid of SSBers because of the advantages they had. I also pushed for players that wouldn't make it to lvl 72 to be able to boost so no one would have a EQ advantage. So with that said to say I'm seeking an advantage in this whole thing is absurd.

I'm going to address each of your "points" by paragraph:

1) your staples example is hilariously flawed...the first half isn't relevant to the discussion and you're not even in the 14 day "window" that staples provides. It certainly is nice of them to do that, but certainly not something that can be "demanded" by a customer.

2) you're again choosing to neglect the 70% refund. Hyperbole doesn't make for a good argument, especially at the expense of ignoring facts.

3) your intentions aren't the same. you bought CE for the full season, everybody else is getting it for less than half.

4) I'm not saying you're seeking an advantage. I would just really like to see you (and anyone else on board) who is bringing negativity to this improvement through their complaining to stop, as it reeks of being ungrateful for them listening to exactly what we were asking for as a community. By implementing this now, all the administrators have done is open this up so more people benefit! No, you don't get to benefit, but so what? You're not getting anything less than what you expected when you clicked the "buy" button. Just be happy for others who are getting to soak it in this season, and be happy that we all get to have it for seasons to come!

I'm not ignoring the 70% refund. Its calculated in my previous post. My Staples example is absolutely on point and while this may not fall into the same 14 day window its still relevant because you stated this never happens and no company does this at all. My intentions are very much the same. I would use it for 40 days from the beginning of the season. I also sated a pro rated discount for those of you willing to buy now so in turn that actually promotes us saving more flex and by us I mean those that waited and did not wait and it also promotes more people buying now and creates more parity in pee wee.

Originally posted by sigepmagicmike
I'm not ignoring the 70% refund. Its calculated in my previous post.

Instead of rebutting, I'll just quote you on this one.

Originally posted by sigepmagicmike
Let's say I have 10 Pee Wee players and I want just normal CE for them that costs me 6000 flex at the beginning of the season...Let's say I wanted to tree boost my CE dots that 9000 total it costs


Originally posted by sigepmagicmike
My Staples example is absolutely on point and while this may not fall into the same 14 day window its still relevant because you stated this never happens and no company does this at all.

Alright, we're on to arguing semantics now....great. You provided one exception whose policy wouldn't even warrant you getting your flex prorated in this scenario, and then tried to apply it to GLB who at no point ever said that they would prorate anything (ie: its not their policy) and honestly weren't obliged to implement the change at all.

Originally posted by sigepmagicmike
My intentions are very much the same. I would use it for 40 days from the beginning of the season.

Do you really not see how getting to use CE since the beginning of the season is different from using it starting today? Do you really not see how people don't really care that you're getting to use your CE for over twice as long for a nearly 100% proportional increase in price?


Originally posted by sigepmagicmike
I also sated a pro rated discount for those of you willing to buy now so in turn that actually promotes us saving more flex and by us I mean those that waited and did not wait and it also promotes more people buying now and creates more parity in pee wee.

I don't know what's funnier, the fact that you bashed on LE for his grammar earlier, or the fact that you still don't get it. Why do you have to be a squeaky wheel, making us look ungrateful as a community, for less than a hundred flex per player? You have to know that this is not going to change, that the admins feel as though they're throwing us enough of a bone already. Stop making us look bad, for the love of God.

So example in case my previous post doesn't make sense because I'm on my phone.

People that bought flex on day one pay 900 flex up front 70% discount of that they pay 240 flex. So in turn are paying 140 flex more than what everyone else is paying now.

People that buy now are paying 100 flex for everything. Why not discount I to 50 flex being its day 20?

Both parties save and like I said it makes more people want to buy this season. I just think it was poor to implement mid season for this reason.

Originally posted by sigepmagicmike
So example in case my previous post doesn't make sense because I'm on my phone.

People that bought flex on day one pay 900 flex up front 70% discount of that they pay 240 flex. So in turn are paying 140 flex more than what everyone else is paying now.

People that buy now are paying 100 flex for everything. Why not discount I to 50 flex being its day 20?

Both parties save and like I said it makes more people want to buy this season. I just think it was poor to implement mid season for this reason.

So you think its a better idea to wait to implement it until next season and no one get the benefit of the rentable cost?

Its becoming more and more apparent that you're not as concerned about parity as you're claiming.

Originally posted by Bleeds
So you think its a better idea to wait to implement it until next season and no one get the benefit of the rentable cost?

Its becoming more and more apparent that you're not as concerned about parity as you're claiming.

Now you are just trying to twist my words. I've said my peace dude. Obviously you and I will not agree on this. I'm glad this was done but I'm disappointed that my same product costs 140 more flex than yours.

Originally posted by sigepmagicmike
Now you are just trying to twist my words. I've said my peace dude. Obviously you and I will not agree on this. I'm glad this was done but I'm disappointed that my same product costs 140 more flex than yours.

To make this come full circle so everyone can realize how much you're choosing to ignore:

Originally posted by Bleeds
100/270 =.37
7/16=.43

If you look at it from a flex/game standpoint (if people are springing for rentable now they're getting 7 regular season games with it), its pretty even. If we extrapolate out to 11/20 (to account for teams getting to the championship game) its still .55. No one is getting fucked, you're still getting exactly what you paid for and what you knew you were going to be paying for at the beginning of the season when you clicked the buy button.

Sorry you had to pay soooo much more for the "same product" (which, by "same product", you obviously mean one that gets twice as much use as those who buy it today).

Roflz, I like Office Max myself.

And you keep conveniently leaving out that I said to give the folks that spring for CE now a pro rated price as well. So to bring this full circle you keep ignoring what I am saying and while we can agree that this is good for Pee Wee and will help bring pairity to Pee Wee we just can't agree on the flex price. I'm getting cheated out of flex while you aren't. Bottom line is 40 days -m paying 240 and for 20 days you pay 100.

I guess I'm just happy the change was made. So it inconveniences some folks who decided to buy it before the change. Big deal. The bigger picture is that our rally for cheaper Peewee CEQ was finally heard.

WTF is going on is Gold that boring these days?
Maybe I need to recruit someone in this thread to OC my team to a loltrophy 2 or 3?
We have the players to get r done. I am just already getting burnt out again doing both O and D and I am trying to salvage a few seasons of dot ball left in me.

Can I go fish here?

BTW No one is in my AI's or Depth

Originally posted by D~Town
WTF is going on is Gold that boring these days?
Maybe I need to recruit someone in this thread to OC my team to a loltrophy 2 or 3?
We have the players to get r done. I am just already getting burnt out again doing both O and D and I am trying to salvage a few seasons of dot ball left in me.

Can I go fish here?

BTW No one is in my AI's or Depth

TBH, Before I got to Gold (S17) all the Gold Agents were saying how hard it is in Gold and there is never a week off etc... Bah.. Bullfns***. 14-2 last season and 9-0 this season.. I'm not impressed. I'm thinking of moving to a different league soon.

Originally posted by DirtyMike
TBH, Before I got to Gold (S17) all the Gold Agents were saying how hard it is in Gold and there is never a week off etc... Bah.. Bullfns***. 14-2 last season and 9-0 this season.. I'm not impressed. I'm thinking of moving to a different league soon.

Well, when you pack up. Keep a Dirty player in TX and get on the payroll.
We would like to cause some havoc somewhere along the way!!!


Yeah Gold is not what it used to be. I mean with owners, sim and dedication that it was seasons 11-15. This is my own opinion but I had first hand experience to form that opinion. It was a cut-throat league. No days off as you mentioned. A 13th place team could beat a 2 or 3 ranked. Men were men back in that day were talking shit was the norm and people didn't get there panties in wad when someone said FU we kicked your ass!

I can't wait to get back and stir the pot! Just need my teams missing piece. Probably an OC so I can get the D tighter and make some new plays as I like to do.

Anyhoot if you leave DM don't go too far. Maybe we could team up on a level 4 team for a few?