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Originally posted by mccollums
Short Bus winning and playing on an elite level with so many agents is VERY IMPRESSIVE. The drawback is having agent issues that can derail a season. I think your reputation is good enough where you get top agents that want to build for you. That not as practical for most other owners.

As a Pee Wee community we need to continue to make noise about reducing the elevated price of Short term builds. I think it will happen eventually but I thought it would happen quicker if we all took a stand and didn't custom EQ for 1 season.





I agree, but with the huge turn over in Gold this season and the Silver teams hungry to prove themselves, I think it would be hard presses to get Gold to go totally no-CEQ this season, if ever.

I for one would love it as I usually field 50%-75% of my team, and CEQ does get expensive. With a new baby on the way, probably middle to late S18, my team will probably go no-CEQ and no-boosting in S18 & S19 as I simply won't have the time to put into the game, so why spend the money? My Bears team will attempt to make a strong push this season, then should be back in S20, hopefully. Since some teams have already said they would go CEQ this season, I think it's too late for this season, but will help you push it for S18.

I don't think we need to push for no custom, rather than push for cheaper air fare. We don't want to bite the hand off that feeds us by saying Gold will be no custom unless you lower your prices, what we need to do is in a rational way let our voices be heard it cost too much as it is now. Custom is 600. That is ludacrist. You can make 6 Offensive lineman for that much. Then tack on 300 for the tree. That's 900 BS money imo. I think we need to address that and see if we could get it for the fraction of what it costs now. I'm not really sure how either because Bort doesnt bother reading threads like this.

I'm going no Pee Wee in S17 in protest. Also I'm going to the bank, taking out a bunch of cash, and using it to light my cigars.

Originally posted by Bleeds
Originally posted by dduprae79

I dont understand why people are in such a hurry to spend 600 flex per player two days into the off season. This was discussed last season in the hopes of making it happen this season. Guess you didnt get the memo.

did you hear that?

it was the sound of my point flying over your head.

I understand your point there smart guy, which I wasnt commenting on anyways. I was merely stating my own thought.

No reply needed.

I don't think I will ever go for this like I have said many times. I have too much flex like some other people and I have no reason to save it.

edit: ya know what? forget it.

we CEd because we wanted to, regardless of what the rest of the league was doing. we didn't want to take chances by having some team use CE to get an advantage on us.

I already read your pre edit. Im not trying to get into a bickering match with you. I came on here only to state my opinion and that was it. For some reason you like to cause confrontation. Just hoping that at some point down the road everyone can get on the same page. CE is a part of this game for one reason only and that is to take the money in our pockets and put it into Borts. It serves no other purpose then that. The game would be the same with or without it.

Custom EQ is a whole lot more than just putting money in Borts Pocket, It's basically a level and a half. Not confrontational, just saying.

Originally posted by LordEvil
Custom EQ is a whole lot more than just putting money in Borts Pocket, It's basically a level and a half. Not confrontational, just saying.

True, I wont disagree. What I should have said is that it was created for that purpose.

I tried to get people on board last season to a certain extent to hope things would change. It's pretty much like buying currency in most games, really has no point but it helps you win. The fact is without decent coaching, it doesn't matter how much flex you spend on your guys.

Originally posted by LordEvil
Custom EQ is a whole lot more than just putting money in Borts Pocket, It's basically a level and a half. Not confrontational, just saying.

Its way more than that.

Put it in a skill at the 3:1 cap (61), and you get the equivalent of 18 skill points (3*6). If you add the Custom tree, that's another 5 SPs (at a minimum). CE gave my QBs 13 SPs due to the CE tree alone last season. That's 31 SPs, or 6 levels.



Originally posted by dduprae79
I already read your pre edit. Im not trying to get into a bickering match with you. I came on here only to state my opinion and that was it. For some reason you like to cause confrontation. Just hoping that at some point down the road everyone can get on the same page. CE is a part of this game for one reason only and that is to take the money in our pockets and put it into Borts. It serves no other purpose then that. The game would be the same with or without it.

It has nothing to do with being confrontational. Your original post in this thread consisted of you talking down to people who choose to buy CE. "I don't understand why its so difficult", "Guess you didn't get the memo", but you never really addressed my point at all. Saying that "you weren't commenting" on it is BS. Look at the order of the posts in this thread. You posted, then me, and then you posted directly after me. Not only did you post directly after me, you even directed a comment directly at me (the memo one). So sure, maybe you were just stating your opinion, but your post was directed at me and was talking to me like I'm a child. You were the one talking down to people, and now you're getting butthurt because I'm not bending over and taking it? Its "so difficult" to not have an "itchy trigger finger" because of human nature, and the fact that we (PPM) realize that we're dealing with humans. Its not as cut and dry as "lining Bort's pocket" or not, because we know everyone here is willing to throw down cash because this is a competitive game in a competitive atmosphere. I'm not naive enough to think that we can get all 32 teams in Gold to sit around a campfire and hold hands for the sake of competitive equality at a reduced rate. Add in the fact that it pisses people like you off (especially considering I haven't spent any money on this game since Dec 2008), and it makes me lol even harder.

Again, this has nothing to do with what you felt as though people were trying to organize up here and everything to do with not allowing someone a potential competitive advantage that I don't have to give them. Every time this comes up, people say the exact same thing I'm saying: jkid and DTown come to mind. Its not like I'm being a rebel and bucking the system. This has failed every time you guys talk about it. No one wants to get ninja customed and the guys who have the money to spend are going to do it. That's what is "so difficult" about this, is that I don't trust you or anybody else from the internet to not screw me over, nor does jkid, dtown, LE, etc, etc......

As an aside, why isn't this argument being made about boosting, too?

Sorry if I hurt anyones feelings, it wasnt my intention for it to seem as though I was talking down to people. Im just trying to help save people a few bucks. Guess that makes me the bad guy. I realize its hard to convey sarcasm in a post, which is what my memo comment was. As far as addressing your point, yes, its not easy to have "faith" in others not to try and get one over on you to get an advantage. Trying to get 32 teams to all jump on the same bandwagon probably isnt easy, but maybe if early enough steps are takin it could be possible. Will it ever happen, doubtful. And sorry to burst your "lol" bubble, but it doesnt piss me off in the least bit. I have no issue spending the money, but if I had the option of not spending it, I would prefer that.

And I'm not trying to disallow anyone a competitive advantage. How is it an advantage if everyone is using it or not using it? I dont think Gerr started this post in the hopes of getting everyone not to use custom so he could get on here in the middle of the night come playoff time and put on CE without anyone noticing. I would hope were all mature and professional enough to not do that.

And boosting isnt as expensive as CE, so I would say that is probably why. But maybe that is something that could be discussed in the future.

So Bleeds, welcome to Gold and best of luck to you and your team this season. From what I've read it sounds like you put together a solid team.

right on dduprae. sorry if i took your post the wrong way. (which i obv did)

ed; i mean, yea, i'd rather not spend the money, but after the season i had last year i don't want to hamstring myself. good luck to you as well.

Originally posted by Bleeds
right on dduprae. sorry if i took your post the wrong way.

Its all good, no hard feelings.