Warrior General Games

Originally posted by aerophil
Very good points. You guys have some good teams in #1, but look what happened when they took the top teams from USA AAA2 Averaging about 980 effective and moved them in one conference and stacked the opposite side with guys averaging 850...
http://goallineblitz.com/game/league.pl?league_id=14

Hey... that's the league we're in!

What's wrong with it? I haven't looked very closely yet.

it has been a mess for a while now, not as bad as AA, but always some major imbalances in the schedule

Originally posted by j10er
Definitely agreed.

Plus, I'd imagine some mediocre/weaker AAA teams will be stacking their rosters with level 70+ with the extended plateau in effect. AAA could end up an absolute mess.

Yeah, I really hope that they're able to sort this out, really just for the sake of the pro leagues next season.

GLB needs the better teams to have a way to promote to Pro, with some of these weaker teams (in weaker conferences) need to stick around where they're at, or competition will be a huge mess in Pro next season.

Originally posted by Bukowski
There is a significant difference in the quality of the different AAA leagues.

So without them being balanced in the least, how are they going to promote the right teams from each conference to Pro next season?

In my teams division alone, there are at least 7 really elite teams, that I'm sure will all have excellent Pro and possibly World careers. So with 7 really awesome teams, that means at least a couple of them will end up having pretty mediocre seasons, which would normally lead to them staying in AAA. But the problem is, most of them could easily win divisions in some of these other weaker AAA divisions, because there is an obvious talent differential going down the line in the AAA leagues.

What ended up happening, is basically because of the leagues being sorted by rivalry points. With a lot of these teams having played in the elite minor league system, it somewhat forces them to remain playing against each other, each season that the system is sorted this way. But this also enables the teams that have played in weaker divisions/conferences, to remain playing against that terrible competition.

Just in my division alone, there are 3 of what I would say, to be the best AAA teams in the game, including Satchmo and Dizzy, Death Valley Fightin' Tigers and the Portland Rage. And then that isn't even counting Kingston, Indianola, Dresden, Ingolstadt, etc. All of those teams that I listed were some of the best AA teams in the game last season, so something needs to be done to make sure that they all have a chance to move up to Pro. All of us are going to be beating each other up, while other teams coast to league titles, with easy advancement to Pro leagues, while we have to go through each other to attain the same thing.

Just for the record, I don't want my team to be moved or anything like that, but something needs to be put in place so the right teams get to promote up to Pro next season. Now that they've extended plateau, I'm guessing that Pro spots will be a bit harder to come by now that teams will be able to keep higher level players on their team for much longer.

agreed

Bort seems to think that everyone should have a shot. See what he did when he sorted Pee Wee Silver using rivalry points.

Originally posted by Time Trial
Bort seems to think that everyone should have a shot. See what he did when he sorted Pee Wee Silver using rivalry points.

everyone else sucks though...

There are only 8 pro leagues... And 11 AAA leagues.
I haven't looked through the AAA leagues to tell... But Bort will have to come up with a fair way to promote teams - and not just blindly promote teams because they won a AAA league title in Season 17.

For instance... Look at this newly promoted SAPL team from AAA:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=4572
Median Level is 71; mean is 70.53
Roster Details
Total Player Count:
15 (Avg Lv 71)
Avg Player Value:
971.7 (Effective Lv 74)
Total Salary:
$236,000.00 ($9,440,000.00/yr)
Salary Cap Space Remaining:
$17,560,000.00

Last season they had a roster of over 50... But all their dots were well into decline. They still beat-up a lot of the AAA teams they came across, but it was evident they were on their last leg.

I don't want to say that the owner isn't going to go out and recruit 30 to 40 dots... But I find it pretty unlikely.

These kind of teams should be placed into some kind of 'Watch and See' kind of list or grouping. Where if they can prove they are going to field a good product in Season 17 - then they can promote up.

But just blindly promoting them into Pro I think is a big mistake. If they don't fix their roster, they are going to be a cup cake team that a lot of more deserving teams / owners should've had their chance to go up into Pro and put up a real fight.

Just my .02 on the matter... And Bort and Co. should really try to address this.

Originally posted by TyrannyVaunt
There are only 8 pro leagues... And 11 AAA leagues.
I haven't looked through the AAA leagues to tell... But Bort will have to come up with a fair way to promote teams - and not just blindly promote teams because they won a AAA league title.

For instance... Look at this newly promoted SAPL team from AAA:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=4572
Median Level is 71; mean is 70.53
Roster Details
Total Player Count:
15 (Avg Lv 71)
Avg Player Value:
971.7 (Effective Lv 74)
Total Salary:
$236,000.00 ($9,440,000.00/yr)
Salary Cap Space Remaining:
$17,560,000.00

Last season they had a roster of over 50... But all their dots were well into decline. They still beat-up a lot of the AAA teams they came across, but it was evident they were on their last leg.

I don't want to say that the owner isn't going to go out and recruit 30 to 40 dots... But I find it pretty unlikely.

These kind of teams should be placed into some kind of 'Watch and See' kind of list or grouping. Where if they can prove they are going to field a good product in Season 17 - then they can promote up.

But just blindly promoting them into Pro I think is a big mistake. If they don't fix their roster, they are going to be a cup cake team that a lot of more deserving teams / owners should've had their chance to go up into Pro and put up a real fight.

Just my .02 on the matter... And Bort and Co. should really try to address this.



But that is problematic also. How can winning a title not equal promotion. That sounds like the BCS, excluding teams that won against their schedule, simply because they did not get the chance to play a tougher schedule.

Originally posted by j10er
Definitely agreed.

Plus, I'd imagine some mediocre/weaker AAA teams will be stacking their rosters with level 70+ with the extended plateau in effect. AAA could end up an absolute mess.

reminds me of the BCS system!!

might as well go by a ranking system like college football

Originally posted by Plankton
Originally posted by TyrannyVaunt

There are only 8 pro leagues... And 11 AAA leagues.
I haven't looked through the AAA leagues to tell... But Bort will have to come up with a fair way to promote teams - and not just blindly promote teams because they won a AAA league title.

For instance... Look at this newly promoted SAPL team from AAA:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=4572
Median Level is 71; mean is 70.53
Roster Details
Total Player Count:
15 (Avg Lv 71)
Avg Player Value:
971.7 (Effective Lv 74)
Total Salary:
$236,000.00 ($9,440,000.00/yr)
Salary Cap Space Remaining:
$17,560,000.00

Last season they had a roster of over 50... But all their dots were well into decline. They still beat-up a lot of the AAA teams they came across, but it was evident they were on their last leg.

I don't want to say that the owner isn't going to go out and recruit 30 to 40 dots... But I find it pretty unlikely.

These kind of teams should be placed into some kind of 'Watch and See' kind of list or grouping. Where if they can prove they are going to field a good product in Season 17 - then they can promote up.

But just blindly promoting them into Pro I think is a big mistake. If they don't fix their roster, they are going to be a cup cake team that a lot of more deserving teams / owners should've had their chance to go up into Pro and put up a real fight.

Just my .02 on the matter... And Bort and Co. should really try to address this.



But that is problematic also. How can winning a title not equal promotion. That sounds like the BCS, excluding teams that won against their schedule, simply because they did not get the chance to play a tougher schedule.

Sorry - that team didn't win a title. They were a playoff team only. But this season - they got promoted into Pro.

Maybe re-seed AAA and AA teams by EL, then distribute them in a snake draft to the various leagues.

Originally posted by TyrannyVaunt
Sorry - that team didn't win a title. They were a playoff team only. But this season - they got promoted into Pro.

I was responding to your early sentence " But Bort will have to come up with a fair way to promote teams - and not just blindly promote teams because they won a AAA league title."

Originally posted by jdbolick
Maybe re-seed AAA and AA teams by EL, then distribute them in a snake draft to the various leagues.

They need to look at something like the following to create a list of teams:

1.) League Title Teams
2.) Conference Title Teams
3.) Playoff Teams
4.) Total Wins from previous season.
5.) Points Allowed
6.) Points Scored

Then sort and rank that list of AAA teams by the following:

1.) Rosters Average Effective Level
2.) Roster Size
3.) Average Player Level
4.) Average Age - older isn't better - a lot of high levels are potentially all into decline.
5.) Average Contract End Date - prevents a team that is going to lose the entire roster after day 40 or day 1 from promoting.

Then the top teams from the sorted list is promoted up into the Pro ranks.

I don't know why they wouldn't do this... It just makes too much sense. And then publish the list in AAA so that team owners know what they need to do to get promoted. This will make Pro better than it is now by promoting shitty teams.

Originally posted by Plankton
Originally posted by TyrannyVaunt

Sorry - that team didn't win a title. They were a playoff team only. But this season - they got promoted into Pro.

I was responding to your early sentence " But Bort will have to come up with a fair way to promote teams - and not just blindly promote teams because they won a AAA league title."

See my next response which details how you could make a fair promotion system.