Warrior General Games

Originally posted by hays23
agreed on GB. they've got a ton of talent at the skill positions, and by all accounts rodgers is one of the better qbs in the league. but their O-Line looks like a good team's practice squad and rodgers holds the ball too long. add that up and you get too many sacks and too many drives stymied by 2nd/3rd and long situations. that also hurts your defense indirectly.

dallas has looked very good lately, but they are a team that its hard to really trust. every time you think they're putting it together, they do something stupid like lose a game in green bay to a team with no offensive line. this just seems like one of those games that will go GB's way. they need a win badly, dallas is coming in over-confident...

GB has no talent, the team and city suck cheese balls

Originally posted by VegasABD
GB has no talent, the team and city suck cheese balls

ok this is a classic example. i made a very well-thought out post with plenty of valid points. you come behind me and say 'blah they suck'...

if you're going to get involved in the discussion have something to say.

Originally posted by hays23
ok this is a classic example. i made a very well-thought out post with plenty of valid points. you come behind me and say 'blah they suck'...

if you're going to get involved in the discussion have something to say.

GB sucks
coaching sucks
O line sucks
running game sucks
city sucks



Dallas wins on Sunday

Points made, watch and learn

Vegas I disagree with you about GB. they have a very good young QB in Rodgers he just needs a O-line to give him some time to throw the ball. their defense is hurting them this season as someone else pointed out the secondary has been getting killed and they should have been a strong point for the team. And GB's running game doesn't suck they have a legitimate top 5 HB if the O-line could block someone. I know I will get ripped for saying their HB is a top 5 HB but he has that much talent.


Also wanted to comment on the guy that said Houston would beat Indy COME ON!!!!!!!!!! I think you missed the Memo friend Indy owns houston, jacksonville and tennessee. I live in tennessee and I have been a colts fan since Marshall Faulk went there. I try to go to a couple of games a year and I will say honestly that Peyton is the best QB the league has ever seen. Most QB's were products of their system. Tom Brady, John Elway, Dan Marino, Joe Montana they all had systems that worked for them. you move them to a different team and they wouldn't be anywhere near as good. Put peyton on any team and that team is elevated to a contender. Go ahead and rip me for the statement guys I don't mind as I don't have facts except for Montana's comparison from the 49ers to the chiefs.

So Manning isn't a product of Edgarin James, Marvin Harrison, Dallas Clarke, Reggie Wayne, Joseph Addai and always having one of the best OL's in football? Manning has choked more often in the playoffs than he has succeeded and to say he owns Houston, Jacksonville and Tennessee is a laugher because Indy has the easiest schedule in football this season. Peyton Manning is a great fantasy football QB, but calling him the best of all time is a stretch....Settle down and lets see if he can snag one or two more Superbowls and then he has a chance to sit atop the throne.

Originally posted by rjssob
So Manning isn't a product of Edgarin James, Marvin Harrison, Dallas Clarke, Reggie Wayne, Joseph Addai and always having one of the best OL's in football? Manning has choked more often in the playoffs than he has succeeded and to say he owns Houston, Jacksonville and Tennessee is a laugher because Indy has the easiest schedule in football this season. Peyton Manning is a great fantasy football QB, but calling him the best of all time is a stretch....Settle down and lets see if he can snag one or two more Superbowls and then he has a chance to sit atop the throne.

Favre only has 1

I think Favre is one of the most overrated and over hyped QB's in the history of the NFL...Another who has more playoff blunders than he does great games. Anyone remember his last pass for the Packers?

Originally posted by rjssob
I think Favre is one of the most overrated and over hyped QB's in the history of the NFL...Another who has more playoff blunders than he does great games. Anyone remember his last pass for the Packers?

Favre to Webster for the game winner.

Was Webster on the Giants?

Originally posted by rjssob
Was Webster on the Giants?

yeppers! Corey Webster, I believe? Passing to Driver and I believe it was Grant who was wide open on the other side.

Originally posted by kondor
yeppers! Corey Webster, I believe? Passing to Driver and I believe it was Grant who was wide open on the other side.

Nice call, just wanted that lasting memory of Favre!

I had a roommate in college who was a diehard cheesehead. After that game, any time he had a question, we would tell him to go look it up in Webster's. Needless to say, he did not appreciate it.

Originally posted by rjssob
I think Favre is one of the most overrated and over hyped QB's in the history of the NFL...Another who has more playoff blunders than he does great games. Anyone remember his last pass for the Packers?

I fully agree with you here Favre was a product of some lucky freaking wins. I have always disliked him and always will. As far as manning I do agree he has had a solid supporting cast no doubt. But lets analyze the players you mentioned.

Edgerrin James- what has he done since he left Indy? He sure wasn't the answer for the cardinals.
Marvin Harrison- I love the guy but in a offense where he hasn't got Peyton he wouldn't have gotten close to his career numbers.
Dallas Clarke- Do you really believe that he would be the dominating TE anywhere else but Indy?
Reggie Wayne- this guy could be a star for alot of teams but Peyton has been a huge part of his success.
Joseph Addai- I like the guy but he isn't a star and wouldn't be a star for most any team. durability issues come to mind.

Yes Peyton has a great O-line but he has made that O-line look better than it really is. Just like Drew Brees is doing with the saints. He gets rid of the ball so quick and Peytons decision making skills and check down skills are unmatched in the game. Look at players like Garcon and Collie both wouldn't have made alot of rosters in the NFL but they are solid contributors in the Colts organization. Peyton may never have the numbers of Marino or Favre or even the championships of a Montana, Aikman, Brady or Elway. But Peyton has been one of the best QB's to ever play the game.

Your obviously a huge Manning guy, but go back and look at the playoff numbers, they don't lie. He has been a choker in big games from the time he was in high school, through college and all the way to the NFL. The guy can flat out throw the ball with the best of them, but he is on pace to be remembered more for regular season wins than what he has done in the playoffs. All you need to do is look at the Superbowl year and see that players like Joseph Addai made the plays to win the games, not Peyton. I won't argue that Manning is one of the best REGULAR season QB's to ever put the pads on, but playoffs are what set the best apart and he needs to do more...

Not that I care anything for Steve Spurrier, but he did have one of the best SEC media day lines when he said that Peyton Manning had the chance to become the first three time winner of the Citrus Bowl. Then of course the "You can't spell Citrus without UT" signs started popping up all over the conference.