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Funny I didn't hear any of you guys bitching when Gart threw games late in the season 2 of the last 3 seasons to try to get my team eliminated from the playoffs. In fact, everyone thought it was p funny.

A far greatest issue than gutting affecting playoff spots is the issue of people being affiliated with more than 1 team affecting playoff spots. The fact that gart controls 2 (or more) teams in the WL allows him to manipulate the scores far more than any gutting could do.

The rule that needs implemented is 1 GM or ownership spot in a league at a time. And then make any pre-arranged deals to throw a game by anyone who controls the AI on offense.........makes the team ineligible for the playoffs that season and a 1 season forum posting ban.

The fact that a mod (Deathblade) was aware of the thrown games and thought it was funny is just more proof that:

1.) He shouldn't be a mod
2.) Bort needs to make a rule about the issue.

Note: I'm not accusing anyone of cheating or anything illegal. Gutting mid season and throwing games is 100% legal and by the current rules.

Originally posted by kurieg
I agree with this assessment.

Further, I am not a fan of trying to come up with a bunch of rules to punish people for essentially fucking off with their team OR to force people to stay on a dead duck for weeks. They paid $x for it; they can tank if they want to. People's dots have limited shelf lives - they should be free to seek greener pastures. It's not like this is anyone's livelihood or anything.



Not trying to come up with a bunch of rules to punish people, rather trying to get a structure and environment where it promote healthy competition. There are reasons why a trade deadline is set up, and team roster limits etc; I think these changes would fall into that category of making the league more fun to play in.

People sure have the rights to seek greener pastures, but it shouldn't come at a cost to other players. Besides, teams still can move 36 players in a season, that is more than 60% of its roster. Plus there is always off season to find greener pastures.

^i disagree with only allowing GMship of one team in any given league

...if you're so mad about them "scheming" to keep you out of the playoffs, gameplan better so you can afford those 2-3 losses

Originally posted by Tony Dungy
Funny I didn't hear any of you guys bitching when Gart lost some big games late in the season 2 of the last 3 seasons, which ended with my team being eliminated from the playoffs. In fact, everyone thought it was p funny.

It was.

I'm really curious what people think someone's ability to moderate a forum has to do with how important they should think your imaginary values about pretend football are.

Originally posted by Tony Dungy
Funny I didn't hear any of you guys bitching when Gart threw games late in the season 2 of the last 3 seasons to try to get my team eliminated from the playoffs. In fact, everyone thought it was p funny.

A far greatest issue than gutting affecting playoff spots is the issue of people being affiliated with more than 1 team affecting playoff spots. The fact that gart controls 2 (or more) teams in the WL allows him to manipulate the scores far more than any gutting could do.

The rule that needs implemented is 1 GM or ownership spot in a league at a time. And then make any pre-arranged deals to throw a game by anyone who controls the AI on offense.........makes the team ineligible for the playoffs that season and a 1 season forum posting ban.

The fact that a mod (Deathblade) was aware of the thrown games and thought it was funny is just more proof that:

1.) He shouldn't be a mod
2.) Bort needs to make a rule about the issue.

Note: I'm not accusing anyone of cheating or anything illegal. Gutting mid season and throwing games is 100% legal and by the current rules.

I thought you were ded. *sigh*

Originally posted by GMathiasf
Originally posted by datongw

This will create some of the following issues:

1) it will have an impact on strength of schedule, which could have an impact on teams fighting for the playoff spot.

2) it could have an impact on playoff seeding, since one of the tie breakers is points differential.

My suggestion is to implement a daily limit on roster moves per team. First 12 days of the season, 4 player transaction max per day (2 additions and 2 subtractions), the next 12 days til roster freeze, each team can have a max of 2 player transactions per day (1 addition and 1 subtraction). This will prevent fire sales just before roster freeze deadline, and at the same time, it won't impact teams from improving their rosters during the season (total of 36 additions in a season should be enough).

Can someone who has access to Bort please discuss this with him? I think it will benefit WL greatly.

or we could also stop giving incentives to team's to gut early at the very least. It's ridiculous that this has been allowed for so long, not only allowed, but encouraged. Right now, the only reason not to gut mid-season if you are a team planning on gutting at the end of the season is personal integrity and respect for other people. Unfortunately, as has been proven over and over again, most people don't have that. It's the lolinternets guys! Real life rules on common courtesy don't apply here and anyone who believes they do get made fun of and the best part is that the people who run this game do NOTHING to stop it. In fact, they continue to give power to people who perpetuate it.

Gutting early ruins seasons and with the stakes on the line that their are in the WL, making the playoffs is pretty big. Santiago and Stewart who were both WAY behind us and Manitoba in points scored now gain a massive advantage in the points scored category because of Tasmania gutting mid-season. However, I don't blame the players of the game for doing it. I never blame the players. Even when teams like Halifax pull the crap they did today, I don't blame them. I blame the people who can do something about it, that choose not to. Hell, Jed gutted his team mid-season a while back and more than one moderator has done the same. It is clear that Bort doesn't give a shit about it to take the literally dozens of steps that he could to prevent it.

Our dotball teams are like little virtual businesses right? So I apply business rules...do what's in the best interest of your business first, not the best interest of other businesses. Because when push comes to shove, those other business aren't going to bail you out.

Originally posted by Tony Dungy
Funny I didn't hear any of you guys bitching when Gart threw games late in the season 2 of the last 3 seasons to try to get my team eliminated from the playoffs. In fact, everyone thought it was p funny.

A far greatest issue than gutting affecting playoff spots is the issue of people being affiliated with more than 1 team affecting playoff spots. The fact that gart controls 2 (or more) teams in the WL allows him to manipulate the scores far more than any gutting could do.

The rule that needs implemented is 1 GM or ownership spot in a league at a time. And then make any pre-arranged deals to throw a game by anyone who controls the AI on offense.........makes the team ineligible for the playoffs that season and a 1 season forum posting ban.

The fact that a mod (Deathblade) was aware of the thrown games and thought it was funny is just more proof that:

1.) He shouldn't be a mod
2.) Bort needs to make a rule about the issue.

Note: I'm not accusing anyone of cheating or anything illegal. Gutting mid season and throwing games is 100% legal and by the current rules.

So if I GM and have players on a team in CPL, own a team in OPL and currently have players and GM a team in the WL, are you telling me if the CPL and OPL teams get promoted, that I shouldn't be able to GM for any teams but my own? That scenario doesn't apply to me personally, but I don't even have to guess or look around to know that it applies to someone.

Originally posted by Wylker
I'm really curious what people think someone's ability to moderate a forum has to do with how important they should think your imaginary values about pretend football are.

What do the forums have to do with being a moderator?

Originally posted by Tony Dungy
The fact that a mod (Deathblade) was aware of the thrown games and thought it was funny is just more proof that:

1.) He shouldn't be a mod
2.) Bort needs to make a rule about the issue.

Note: I'm not accusing anyone of cheating or anything illegal. Gutting mid season and throwing games is 100% legal and by the current rules.

I get it, Deathblade shouldn't be a mod because he didn't cheat or do anything illegal.

Originally posted by joemiken
Makes way too much sense for it to be implemented. Sorry.

see my sig

Originally posted by GMathiasf
Originally posted by datongw

This will create some of the following issues:

1) it will have an impact on strength of schedule, which could have an impact on teams fighting for the playoff spot.

2) it could have an impact on playoff seeding, since one of the tie breakers is points differential.

My suggestion is to implement a daily limit on roster moves per team. First 12 days of the season, 4 player transaction max per day (2 additions and 2 subtractions), the next 12 days til roster freeze, each team can have a max of 2 player transactions per day (1 addition and 1 subtraction). This will prevent fire sales just before roster freeze deadline, and at the same time, it won't impact teams from improving their rosters during the season (total of 36 additions in a season should be enough).

Can someone who has access to Bort please discuss this with him? I think it will benefit WL greatly.

or we could also stop giving incentives to team's to gut early at the very least. It's ridiculous that this has been allowed for so long, not only allowed, but encouraged. Right now, the only reason not to gut mid-season if you are a team planning on gutting at the end of the season is personal integrity and respect for other people. Unfortunately, as has been proven over and over again, most people don't have that. It's the lolinternets guys! Real life rules on common courtesy don't apply here and anyone who believes they do get made fun of and the best part is that the people who run this game do NOTHING to stop it. In fact, they continue to give power to people who perpetuate it.

Gutting early ruins seasons and with the stakes on the line that their are in the WL, making the playoffs is pretty big. Santiago and Stewart who were both WAY behind us and Manitoba in points scored now gain a massive advantage in the points scored category because of Tasmania gutting mid-season. However, I don't blame the players of the game for doing it. I never blame the players. Even when teams like Halifax pull the crap they did today, I don't blame them. I blame the people who can do something about it, that choose not to. Hell, Jed gutted his team mid-season a while back and more than one moderator has done the same. It is clear that Bort doesn't give a shit about it to take the literally dozens of steps that he could to prevent it.

I don't think there's any INCENTIVES to gutting early. That would imply the owners get something out of it, which isn't the case. Most of the time they just want to walk away.

And that's a nice post and all, but wouldn't that all be solved by not allowing teams to sell mid-season?

Originally posted by Tony Dungy
Funny I didn't hear any of you guys bitching when Gart threw games late in the season 2 of the last 3 seasons to try to get my team eliminated from the playoffs. In fact, everyone thought it was p funny.

A far greatest issue than gutting affecting playoff spots is the issue of people being affiliated with more than 1 team affecting playoff spots. The fact that gart controls 2 (or more) teams in the WL allows him to manipulate the scores far more than any gutting could do.

The rule that needs implemented is 1 GM or ownership spot in a league at a time. And then make any pre-arranged deals to throw a game by anyone who controls the AI on offense.........makes the team ineligible for the playoffs that season and a 1 season forum posting ban.

The fact that a mod (Deathblade) was aware of the thrown games and thought it was funny is just more proof that:

1.) He shouldn't be a mod
2.) Bort needs to make a rule about the issue.

Note: I'm not accusing anyone of cheating or anything illegal. Gutting mid season and throwing games is 100% legal and by the current rules.

Who was even talking about any of this? Please try to stay on-topic. Thx.

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