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I understand your frustrations. Shuffling won't help in your case as you might win a shuffled league and then end up in a worse case in AAA. Every team that gets promoted has the same option. Either recruit higher level players or vow to stick together and take some lumps. Yes your situation isn't ideal but if your builds are strong there isn't as big a gap in talent as 20 levels might indicate. I am not saying you will go .500 or anything but next season when your guys are approching level 40. You should be competitve. Right now you have those 2 choices. This became a problem by making too many teams in the first place and the high number of CPU in EEA. Quite frankly you shouldn't have done so well to get promoted 2 seasons in a row.

Roger

Originally posted by Roger6363
Quite frankly you shouldn't have done so well to get promoted 2 seasons in a row.

Roger

That is an absurd comment, are you suggesting teams should tank and not make the playoffs. People want to win, people want an equal shot at winning trophies and championships. Until they stop teams from Gutting and taking level 50 players to A leagues to just roll the leagues back up to AAA again, this shit will continue to happen.

If they built a shuffle system where the Higher level players are in the 1,2,3 leagues of A, AA, AAA then those championships will be coveted more and stand for more in the eyes of the community.

You shuffle, set the caps for A, AA leagues based on the average at the end of the season, do the shuffle and then let them signe FA's under the cap.

Everyone should be able to compete with similar level players + or - 5 levels.

Its was a joke...and no you shouldn't tank. However I would say to you suck it up and deal with it. It doesn't make sense to mess up AA cause you don't think your team will do well this season. So you want an easier road to win another trophy. If you don't do well this season there's a chance to get demoted.

Roger

just don't pull a CY!

It's very disappointing to be promoted to a league full of 50's. We have no chance at winning more than a couple games.

Alot of people say "Just recruit higher lvl players"

Well, whatever happened to trying to keep teams together? Wasn't there talks from Bort (long ago) about some sort of reward (fame) for teams that keep the same players for a extended time? Some sportsmanship thingy?

Seems to me if you are going to promote a lvl 29 team to a 50 league, you are promoting hiring and firing players every season just so that team can stay up to date with the rest of the league.

Originally posted by Roger6363
Its was a joke...and no you shouldn't tank. However I would say to you suck it up and deal with it. It doesn't make sense to mess up AA cause you don't think your team will do well this season. So you want an easier road to win another trophy. If you don't do well this season there's a chance to get demoted.

Roger

Not a good joke.

The system should reward teams for playing well. Promotions make sense.

Promotion however makes no sense when a capped 16 team is promoted to an uncapped league after one season.

And it makes even less sense when that team is promoted again after beating teams that they "shouldn't" beat, and this time to another uncapped league full of even higher level players.

The answer is not a shuffle!!! Does it make sense for your team to get into a shuffled league and get promoted again? Look the problem is not that there needs to be a shuffle at the AA level. The problem was there was way too many teams created and thus too many CPU's in EEA for season 8. So when you got your new capped 13 team you should have never got that team Bort should have handed out the CPU teams. You got a team and did good and got promoted your first season. That is a great job. You then were unfortunate that you got into a league with a bunch of CPU's and got promoted again. Your team has had great success that many of us that took over the uncapped teams didnt get to have. I do not feel sorry for you and I do not want a shuffle cause your team has done well and got promoted. You cant always win. You have to take your lumps it just so happens it might be your team this season. My suggestion to you is tell guys you dont feel you can compete this season. Advise them to just worry about working on their builds and you put a freeze on the equipment fund. Invest all cash into the stadium and retool for next season. Wether you get demoted or not you will be better off next season. It just seems that people ask for an easy way out too damn often. Man up and take your lumps you could learn alot this season that will make you better in the long run.

Roger

No we shouldn't "HAVE" to take any lumps. We did well against similar level opponents because we gameplan well, and build players well. Not because we get to play teams 21 levels below us... like half AA1 will this season. Just because Bort handed out too many teams doesn't mean we should suffer. We are paying customers here too you know.

I don't like the idea of going 0-16 cause of someone else's stupidity. All they have to do is move a few teams around to make it more competetive.

But I understand why you wouldn't want that... because you then wouldn't have 8 gimme games against lvl 29 teams... and you'd actually have to earn your wins.

So why don't you man up and play equal opponents.

We have manned up. We never had 8 gimme games like you guys. We also played all last season with the Smexies in our league. We started the season averaging about lvl 24 and they were what... 40? We knew we were all playing for 2nd... in the conf. (not league), and not chance of a trophy. But we manned up as you put it and played strong the whole season for nothing. So don't fucking tell us to man up. You fucking man up and play someone your level this season.

Pretty easy and chicken shit for some dumbass to tell someone else to man up when they are not in the same boat. Don't fucking tell me to man up you dumb fuck.

although we would benefit with a shuffle; it doesn't solve anything...only causing more problems and promoting weaker teams

Originally posted by Blitztiger
although we would benefit with a shuffle; it doesn't solve anything...only causing more problems and promoting weaker teams

The shuffle I assume they mean is if the take all the AA teams and lump the closest 32 into each league. You have 4 AA leagues. 128 teams. You take the best 32 in AA1, the next 32 into AA2, the next 32 into AA3, and the last 32 into AA4.

Simple... even Sithass and Sweet Tits could do it.

Originally posted by Godzirra
Originally posted by Blitztiger

although we would benefit with a shuffle; it doesn't solve anything...only causing more problems and promoting weaker teams

The shuffle I assume they mean is if the take all the AA teams and lump the closest 32 into each league. You have 4 AA leagues. 128 teams. You take the best 32 in AA1, the next 32 into AA2, the next 32 into AA3, and the last 32 into AA4.

Simple... even Sithass and Sweet Tits could do it.

So without cussing you out....Look at my league my league doesnt have a bunch of level 29 teams as you see it My conference has two teams that dont have a roster full of level 35+ talent. I am not afraid of competition as I am one of the guys that took over a team that was gutted and uncapped. I worked to get my team up and had some horrible seasons. My team took their lumps and we manned up. Look dude your asking for the easy way out. My team will be lucky to go .500 this season. I am not looking at rolling through any competition here. My thing is your team is the vast minority here. Why would we shuffle all of AA for a few teams who got promoted 2 seasons in a row? You lose rivalries and friendships built through playing teams season after season. It is not like the bottom tiers where a majority of teams were CPU/Slowbuild. Answer my question. If there is a shuffle in EEAA and you get promoted what are you going to do next season? Really be pissed about there being too many CPU teams in EEA but your asking to make an exception for a few teams in each league. You were part of the best your league last season had to offer and got promoted that is the system. Now cry cuss and act ignorant all you like. As an owner I was responding to a post asking for what my thoughts were and that is all I did. What would "Sithass and Sweet Tits" do with the champ in EEAA4 under your plan?

Roger

Originally posted by Godzirra
Originally posted by Blitztiger

although we would benefit with a shuffle; it doesn't solve anything...only causing more problems and promoting weaker teams

The shuffle I assume they mean is if the take all the AA teams and lump the closest 32 into each league. You have 4 AA leagues. 128 teams. You take the best 32 in AA1, the next 32 into AA2, the next 32 into AA3, and the last 32 into AA4.

Simple... even Sithass and Sweet Tits could do it.


so what will you do if you get shuffled over to AA4 and make the title game and get promoted to AAA?

Originally posted by Roger6363
Originally posted by Godzirra

Originally posted by Blitztiger


although we would benefit with a shuffle; it doesn't solve anything...only causing more problems and promoting weaker teams

The shuffle I assume they mean is if the take all the AA teams and lump the closest 32 into each league. You have 4 AA leagues. 128 teams. You take the best 32 in AA1, the next 32 into AA2, the next 32 into AA3, and the last 32 into AA4.

Simple... even Sithass and Sweet Tits could do it.

So without cussing you out....Look at my league my league doesnt have a bunch of level 29 teams as you see it My conference has two teams that dont have a roster full of level 35+ talent. I am not afraid of competition as I am one of the guys that took over a team that was gutted and uncapped. I worked to get my team up and had some horrible seasons. My team took their lumps and we manned up. Look dude your asking for the easy way out. My team will be lucky to go .500 this season. I am not looking at rolling through any competition here. My thing is your team is the vast minority here. Why would we shuffle all of AA for a few teams who got promoted 2 seasons in a row? You lose rivalries and friendships built through playing teams season after season. It is not like the bottom tiers where a majority of teams were CPU/Slowbuild. Answer my question. If there is a shuffle in EEAA and you get promoted what are you going to do next season? Really be pissed about there being too many teams but your asking to make an exception for a few teams in each league. You were part of the best your league last season had to offer and got promoted that is the system. Now cry cuss and act ignorant all you like. As an owner I was responding to a post asking for what my thoughts were and that is all I did. What would "Sithass and Sweet Tits" do with the champ in EEAA4 under your plan?

Roger

I'm not even going to have a conversation with your dumb ass if you think this conversation is about looking for an "easy way out". It's looking for a closer to even level of competition. But you are too clueless to figure that out.

Boo Hoo for you, you finally have 8 freebie games where the team is 21 levels lower than you and you are crying that maybe the league would be reshuffled and you might actually have to play even teams.

We are not asking for a easy way out. We are asking for closer competition than 21 levels. Hell even 8-10 levels would'nt be bad... but 21?

We already had a season where things were "not easy". Last season we lost 5 games. How is that a walk in the park? Last season we had Smexies in our conference... so we knew we would never be able to play for a trophy. How is that easy.

So don't fucking lecture me about taking an easy way out or just manning up. You clearly don't understand the picture so please STFU!

Originally posted by Blitztiger
Originally posted by Godzirra

Originally posted by Blitztiger


although we would benefit with a shuffle; it doesn't solve anything...only causing more problems and promoting weaker teams

The shuffle I assume they mean is if the take all the AA teams and lump the closest 32 into each league. You have 4 AA leagues. 128 teams. You take the best 32 in AA1, the next 32 into AA2, the next 32 into AA3, and the last 32 into AA4.

Simple... even Sithass and Sweet Tits could do it.


so what will you do if you get shuffled over to AA4 and make the title game and get promoted to AAA?


Hope that the level disparity is not 21 levels. If so, then I would request that all of AAA get reshuffled so the better AAA teams are in the same league and so on and so on. There really is no reason why this can't be done.

The worse thing is Bort would have a little more work to do. Oh no! He would actually have to "earn" all the money he's making. I would think he would want to do something like this. It would mean less people going cpu, less people leaving glb, more people staying to keep paying Bort.

Any time a team goes cpu, that means one less team will have to be created thru expansion... which means less flex sold... which means less money for Bort. He should be doing everything possible to keep teams from going cpu so he can get more money. And if he was doing reshuffle to keep teams more even, he wouldn't lose as many teams. And if he didn't lose as many teams, he wouldn't need to reshuffle. Vicious cycle.

Shuffle to stop losing teams... not losing teams will stop the need to reshuffle. And of course you will have a couple here and there every season... but that's better than 8 lvl 29 teams and 8 lvl 50 teams in the same conference.

This coming season will be the biggest joke yet. Hell we won't even be able to watch our players try to get individual awards, let alone the league trophy. There will be absolutely no need to even gameplan for teams 21 levels ahead of us. Basically 8 cpu games for all the current AA teams. Ya, this should be real exciting. <sarcasm>

Originally posted by Godzirra
Boo Hoo for you, you finally have 8 freebie games where the team is 21 levels lower than you and you are crying that maybe the league would be reshuffled and you might actually have to play even teams.


Im an idiot and you cant read my post. I will be lucky to go .500 and I do not have 8 gimme games. Hell I dont have 3 gimme games.


Originally posted by Godzirra
Hope that the level disparity is not 21 levels. If so, then I would request that all of AAA get reshuffled so the better AAA teams are in the same league and so on and so on. There really is no reason why this can't be done.


You just dont get it then you would have a team get promoted to Pro that shouldnt.....and teams that are more deserving. In AAA1. What is your answer there shuffle PRO?



Originally posted by Godzirra
The worse thing is Bort would have a little more work to do. Oh no! He would actually have to "earn" all the money he's making. I would think he would want to do something like this. It would mean less people going cpu, less people leaving glb, more people staying to keep paying Bort.

A couple more things you dont get. More people would be pissed if this move happened thus more pissed off customers with the shuffle. Look at this there what have there been 2-3 teams complaining. If teams cared more would post. Most dont even bother cause its obsurd. I was bored one day and posted on it. Also Bort already "earned" his money by creating this site. I am not a fan of many things Bort does but he was genious enough to create GLB so he has already "earned" whatever money he gets from GLB.

Originally posted by Godzirra
Any time a team goes cpu, that means one less team will have to be created thru expansion... which means less flex sold... which means less money for Bort. He should be doing everything possible to keep teams from going cpu so he can get more money. And if he was doing reshuffle to keep teams more even, he wouldn't lose as many teams. And if he didn't lose as many teams, he wouldn't need to reshuffle. Vicious cycle.


Another dumb statement...dude your on a roll. Just cause a team goes CPU doesnt mean that he fills those CPU teams and not expand. This is what created this problem he kept expanding. Also a high percentage of owners sell their teams and get right back on the list to try again. Also do you have any clue how many NOOB's there are begging to get a team? Every season it has been over 1000. Now with the Casual and Pee Wee. Bort doesnt have an issue with people wanting teams.


Dude if you look at EEAA3 and EEAA4 you will see that the issue you are having in your league is not over there. Not sure about EEAA2 but really there arent that many teams that are in your same boat. I do understand your frustrations and would not like to be in your situation but really a shuffle is not good for EEAA.


Roger