Originally posted by B3I3R
Originally posted by PjSanford
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In fact, I am happy to loose 50% of my income to help others out. Society survives because of its weakest members not its strongest.
Who we are born into has NOTHING TO DO WITH US but everything to do with how lucky we are.
Until we change society, so that EVERYONE has an equal chance to get to the top and we accept Meritocracy, we need to tax the rich more and help those lower down the social ladder, otherwise we have to accept things like crime, social disorder, etcetera, will increase and will get worse.
We will go in order, each # is correlated to your respective blurbs above.
1) How the hell does society survive via it's weakest members? Do weak members create jobs or generate capital? Last I checked "weak" members are bottom feeders and yes that is going as far as those on wealth fare, etc.
2) How lucky we are? What are you talking about? Have you ever heard of entrepreneurial people - I assume that you're saying "rich/wealthy" people are simply lucky? So for example - BORT, he is lucky to be in his situation because he created this addictive game and has made plenty of cash from it?
3) Everyone has an equal chance. Last time I checked, or at least in the states anyone can go to college as long as they meet requirement, everyone can breathe, some may need loans to do it and some may not live at such high of standards to get through college but they have the oppurtunity to succeed. It's all about personal choices and you don't even have to go to college to be successful but one's path in life totally comes down to choices he or she makes.
If Mike wants to drop out of college - where is he going to go work at? McDonalds? Most likely yes, do you really see college educated person working at McDonalds flipping burgers, didn't think so. Essentially your term of meritocracy is irrelevant...not every citizen in the world can live in the highest of classes and thus these classes are defined by the choices you make and the family you were born into. As far as the drug addicted person you know or know of - simply sad, but so true that she will live off of her parents for her entire life...
You need to do a bit of research on Social Mobility. Just because EVERYONE CAN doesn't mean some people don't get a much easier ride.
You have two people:
Person A: Working Class, has to work outside of High School, College, etcetera, so he can earn his degree. He averages a 14hour day because of this.
Person B: Family are rich, pay for him to go to School, he only has to go to class. He can thus spend more time focused on his studies.
To claim Person B has not got a higher chance of passing and an easier college life, is just a lie.
The reason society survives off of its weakest members, is because we have to use them and exploit them for those of us with money to survive. Take the law firm I work for, we have something like 30 people paid minimum wage, they sort the mail for us, they take phone calls, they file things, they take notes during meetings, etcetera. We cannot survive without them, but we do not pay them a decent wage.
The factory worker is another perfect example of this:
He goes to work, does 8hr days 5 (if not more) days a week, he produces the items, the person at the top is making money OFF OF THEM. That person would have no business, he would have no company if it wasn't for those people at the bottom. Just like they'd have no job if it wasn't for the person at the top. To claim he has so much more importance than they do is just bullshit. He'd have no business if it wasn't for them.
Oh and Quadri Space, stop getting involved in things you do not understand. Socialism is the Control of the MOP, not once have I spoke of the MOP till just now. You have no clue what you are going on about.
