Warrior General Games

Originally posted by CDZYO
Originally posted by d5greene

There needs to be something done about slow building teams...

And as far as the Knights, I find it hard to believe you guys formed as a team and no one slow built with all of your players high scouting bars for their levels. I dont care how good you build, you have to slow build to get that high

You know, you can check the creation date on every player instead of showing off your lack of faith. There's not a single "slow build" in the bunch, and most of them have D-league stats.

Here, start with Bart: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=956138
Created: Season 5, day 14 (Oct 4, 2008)

There are only four players on the Death Knights that are older than him, and at least two of them joined the team this season.

You're going to have to come up with another excuse for why your team fails. The "WAAAH! There needs to be something done about slow building teams! WAAAH!" excuse is so last season.

Yup, they are a team made up of season 5 and older players, yet season 7 was their level 13 cap year. I don't know about you but it only takes me 1 season to get my player to level 12-13.

Originally posted by d5greene
Yup, they are a team made up of season 5 and older players, yet season 7 was their level 13 cap year.

You'll have to explain how a creation date of "Season 5, Day 14" translates in your head to become "season 5 and older players."

Originally posted by d5greene
I don't know about you but it only takes me 1 season to get my player to level 12-13.


...and yet it's day 7 and your level 13 players were created on day 31 two seasons ago. So, what's the secret to your failure?

Originally posted by d5greene
Originally posted by Cyfen19

Something was done about slow building teams, Veteran Abilities, and it has proven to be quite effective.

What was done about them?

We can't get them until level 25, and that pretty much breaks the slow build process once you get to level 22 because you have two choices. Don't boost and miss out on the VPs or boost and miss out on the exp. It's a lose/lose if you are slow building. My WR will reach this crossroad in about 5 days and I'm not ready to stop slow building him yet. But at 10% boost to speed would put him well over 100...I need VXP!

Originally posted by silenthatred
Originally posted by d5greene

Originally posted by Cyfen19


Something was done about slow building teams, Veteran Abilities, and it has proven to be quite effective.

What was done about them?

We can't get them until level 25, and that pretty much breaks the slow build process once you get to level 22 because you have two choices. Don't boost and miss out on the VPs or boost and miss out on the exp. It's a lose/lose if you are slow building. My WR will reach this crossroad in about 5 days and I'm not ready to stop slow building him yet. But at 10% boost to speed would put him well over 100...I need VXP!

VP have always been at level 25. And this does not discourage slow building, it just means when you get to level 22 you boost to level 25. Anyone super slow building will have used their skill points by now to begin with...this is nothing to discourage someone getting a level 13 capped team and starting with all level 1 players and super slow build them

Originally posted by d5greene
Originally posted by silenthatred

Originally posted by d5greene


Originally posted by Cyfen19



Something was done about slow building teams, Veteran Abilities, and it has proven to be quite effective.

What was done about them?

We can't get them until level 25, and that pretty much breaks the slow build process once you get to level 22 because you have two choices. Don't boost and miss out on the VPs or boost and miss out on the exp. It's a lose/lose if you are slow building. My WR will reach this crossroad in about 5 days and I'm not ready to stop slow building him yet. But at 10% boost to speed would put him well over 100...I need VXP!

VP have always been at level 25. And this does not discourage slow building, it just means when you get to level 22 you boost to level 25. Anyone super slow building will have used their skill points by now to begin with...this is nothing to discourage someone getting a level 13 capped team and starting with all level 1 players and super slow build them

The mid-season boost and experience loss is a discouragement. Not a major enough one for me though, but does have to be at least considered.

The real problem with VAs and slow build teams happens when you move up a few leagues. When your team is ~ lvl 30 and your facing teams that are ~ lvl 45, the amount of VAs the higher level team has compared to the slow build team far out weighs the extra points gained from slow building. So even though most slow build teams builds will be on par if not better than the higher level teams, the VAs are just too much to overcome most of the time.

Originally posted by Cyfen19
The real problem with VAs and slow build teams happens when you move up a few leagues. When your team is ~ lvl 30 and your facing teams that are ~ lvl 45, the amount of VAs the higher level team has compared to the slow build team far out weighs the extra points gained from slow building. So even though most slow build teams builds will be on par if not better than the higher level teams, the VAs are just too much to overcome most of the time.

Yeah but after a few seasons, the slow build team with have the higher level players AND the most VA's and will be unstoppable.

Originally posted by Cyfen19
The real problem with VAs and slow build teams happens when you move up a few leagues. When your team is ~ lvl 30 and your facing teams that are ~ lvl 45, the amount of VAs the higher level team has compared to the slow build team far out weighs the extra points gained from slow building. So even though most slow build teams builds will be on par if not better than the higher level teams, the VAs are just too much to overcome most of the time.

That's why you run loltactics to prevent your slow build team from being promoted...

Yes, I figured out the creation day necessary to get my players between 13.8 and 13.999 on Day 41 of Season 6 with 3 boosts remaining. Creating your players at the right time in the season isn't super slow-building. Heck, you do it too ... why else would you have Day 31 players? 900 points of XP before the season ends, no?

I've got the QB and 2 of the WR, and I didn't even meet these guys until around Season 6 playoff time when they were building the team ... so you can be pretty sure it wasn't some sort of slow-build conspiracy.

Originally posted by d5greene
There needs to be something done about people who build better players than I do.. it's just not fair

FYP

Originally posted by Aanidar
Originally posted by d5greene

There needs to be something done about people who build better players than I do.. it's just not fair

FYP

lmao

Originally posted by Sarg01
I've got the QB and 2 of the WR, and I didn't even meet these guys until around Season 6 playoff time when they were building the team ... so you can be pretty sure it wasn't some sort of slow-build conspiracy.

I met the guys by accident in one of the D-league forums, after they'd already put together most of the team. It's been one of the best connections I've made in this game.

Originally posted by Aanidar
Originally posted by d5greene

There needs to be something done about people who build better players than I do.. it's just not fair

FYP

I'm not complaining about people making better builds than I do. My builds suck, I know it...lol

I just dont want slowbuild gutted teams in leagues. I want EVERY team in every league in every division to be competitive for a championship. I do not like playing stat padding games, and if everyone recruited to be more competitive the game would just be better.

Earning trophies would mean something, and owners and coordinators would have to work that much harder

Originally posted by d5greene
Originally posted by Aanidar

Originally posted by d5greene


There needs to be something done about people who build better players than I do.. it's just not fair

FYP

I'm not complaining about people making better builds than I do. My builds suck, I know it...lol

I just dont want slowbuild gutted teams in leagues. I want EVERY team in every league in every division to be competitive for a championship. I do not like playing stat padding games, and if everyone recruited to be more competitive the game would just be better.

Earning trophies would mean something, and owners and coordinators would have to work that much harder

QFMFT!

Originally posted by d5greene
Originally posted by Aanidar

Originally posted by d5greene


There needs to be something done about people who build better players than I do.. it's just not fair

FYP

I'm not complaining about people making better builds than I do. My builds suck, I know it...lol

I just dont want slowbuild gutted teams in leagues. I want EVERY team in every league in every division to be competitive for a championship. I do not like playing stat padding games, and if everyone recruited to be more competitive the game would just be better.

Earning trophies would mean something, and owners and coordinators would have to work that much harder

Luckily the higher you get up in the leagues the more competitive it gets. Although there is always going to be 1-2 punching bags in every league, just not a lot you can do about teams going CPU.